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2 480s would be sorta overkill.. If you want it to be very silent then you can do dual 480s and very low rpm fans. Me personally i like my systems to be as cool as i can get them so if i had the space I would get 2 480s but it isn't necessary. At this point its a toss up Either dual 360s or dual 480s, if you wanna save some money get the 360s if you wanna drop maybe a couple c in temps go with dual 480s. My only concerns is your sorta pushing the boundaries of a single pump, in loop this large you need to make sure you have as little restriction as possible within your blocks, you can still maintain a single loop and add a second pump for redundancy by getting a dual top.

The best fan for value/silence/static pressure are these GT AP-15 There are better fans that will keep you withitng the same sound range but they are almost double the price and they are these M12-P
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Originally Posted by Larzz;12058440 
Just ordered the case and apparently it comes with places for quad rads. I deiced I want to go with a quieter build so I think i am gonna go with 1 rx480 and 1 rx360 or should I just go with 2 480s? What fans would go great with those rads? Thanks again for your help!!!!!

GTX480s are still the best rad you'll find, even for a quiet build. (quiet being 1500rpms) San Aces on a fan controller are still going to be the best fan. Like I said before, with that set-up you have the option of silence, or performance. All you have to do is control the fans with the fan controller. They're under 40dB at full load, so... you can make the decision yourself.

If you want to save some money, you can go with RX480s with some yate loon or gentile typhoon 15s. Yate loons perform well and are super cheap. GT15s perform better, but they cost 2-3 times more per fan. At full speed, this will be around 30dB but your air-water delta will be a few degrees higher.

The difference between a GTX480 and a RX480 with push fans at 2000rpm is over 250 watts cooling potential. That means you can cool more components with the GTX480, or have a few degrees lower temps. To be honest, you would really only need one GTX480 with push san aces. You wouldn't even need two rads.
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Originally Posted by mhaneline;12058965 
GTX480s are still the best rad you'll find, even for a quiet build. (quiet being 1500rpms) San Aces on a fan controller are still going to be the best fan. Like I said before, with that set-up you have the option of silence, or performance. All you have to do is control the fans with the fan controller. They're under 40dB at full load, so... you can make the decision yourself.

To end fan war once and for all here is vid i just made of just 1 san ace 109R1212H101 on a RX360 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYAtZM6Sao"]109R1212H101[/ame] and to put it in ever better perspective my friend is coming over with his extra GTX360 so i can do a sound sample on that. you can clearly see this vid matches every single video there is on the fan, its no where near quiet, as its 40db when completely free flowing with 0 resistance. with resistance at 1300rpms it still produces 50+db of sound. And on top of that at 1300rpms it completely renders the GTX rad useless as the RX360 will be outperforming it by several degrees at this point.

Now imagine 12 of these going, might as well just make your home in a jet engine.
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I think I am gonna do 2 480's what 2 pumps would i need and what order should i run everything?
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Originally Posted by Therionx;12059479 
To end fan war once and for all here is vid i just made of just 1 san ace 109R1212H101 on a RX360

You've stated your opinion numerous times, and I have read it numerous times. I understand what you are trying to say, and I disagree with your opinion. He's mounting these in a MountainMods case. That case is going to be 5+ feet away from him (it's too big to be on or under a desk, so it's going to have to go on either side of it). Based on the Sound Distance Dampening equasion r2 = r1 x 10(L1-L2)/20 we know that for every 2 feet, the sound pressure level drops 6.02dB. If the case is 5 feet away, that's 15.05dB less volume.

What does that mean? It means that if we use your number 50dB and apply the above formula, the actual volume at the observed position is more like 35dB.

That being said, San Aces at 2000rpm 5 feet away are around 40dB to the observed position, and provide the best performance.
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No fan, aside from this guys big brother, can be worse as far as db.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7e3eZVitGc[/ame]

And I'm putting that in the rear of my 800D as an intake.

...but not at full tilt. I'm crazy, not stupid.
post #57 of 65
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Originally Posted by Larzz;12059663 
I think I am gonna do 2 480's what 2 pumps would i need and what order should i run everything?

I would get two mcp355 pumps with xspc tops or a dual top. The optimal order would be Res > pump1+2 > GTX4801 > cpu > GTX4802 > SLI GPUs and back to the res.

You could also split the pumps and have one after the cpu, but with two 355s, it's simply not needed. Your flow will easily be over 1GPM.
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Originally Posted by mongoloid;12059713 
No fan, aside from this guys big brother, can be worse as far as db.

lol don't lose a finger. I had 6 deltas on my HP Proliant server before I water cooled it. It was unbearably loud (especially because the HP software governed the fan speed, and saw fit to have them blasting for the first 5 minutes)
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Originally Posted by Larzz;12059663 
I think I am gonna do 2 480's what 2 pumps would i need and what order should i run everything?

2 MCP355's and DDC dual top, id go RES>PUMP>CPU>MB>RAD>VC1-3>RAD>RES>PUMP you can play around with the order as long as the res and pump are first as it only makes a .2 or so difference in temps. you can also play around with the setup in the case to see whatever will give you the shortest run in tubing that will be the best way to go
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Originally Posted by mhaneline;12059681 
What does that mean? It means that if we use your number 50dB and apply the above formula, the actual volume at the observed position is more like 35dB.

That being said, San Aces at 2000rpm 5 feet away are around 40dB to the observed position, and provide the best performance.

It produces 60db at 2000rpm thus giving it a variance of 13.98db at 5ft or simply 46.02db at set distance, and once again if you wanted to obtain 40bd from that position you would have to drop the fan down to 6v roughly 1250-1300rpm yet again rendering the GTX series useless. Either way in order to be beneficial using the GTX with those fans you are looking at 45db+ at 5ft away.
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