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Recently installed openSUSE 11.3 KDE on my laptop.

I absolutely love the OS except for one little tidbit... YaST/zypper.

Please don't tell me to give it a fair a chance or get used to it (unless of course there is no other way), I hate it and I don't want it haha.

Any way at all to install synaptic or pacman (or anything decent really) in openSUSE?

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Have you tried out Smart?
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synaptic or pacman are designed specifically for the packages they handle, synaptic for deb and pacman for arch packages (which appear be unmodified gzips).

it would require reworking to get either one to work correctly with rpm's.

if you dislike the package manager of the distro (which is sorta what sets the differences in each distro), maybe you should try a different distro one that uses pacman or synaptic.

it wasn't prolly the answer you were looking for, but imho synaptic (debian based distros) are superior to yast/zypper.
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@Devoid: Zypper is not the problem. You're probably thinking both are problematic when in fact it is only Yast/Packagekit causing hell. I do not use GUI management because I've yet to find one that worked without being a problem. Zypper is your friend so long as you get Yast/Packagekit and the automatic update applet out of the way. Once you do that there's really nothing that different between it and any other packagemanager (yes I said that). All I notice is different syntax is required and that's clearly listed in zypper --h.
     
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Yea I actually think I kinda jumped the gun on zypper. It's not that bad. How do you suggest I "get Yast/Packagekit out of the way?". Also, how do I update the repositories? Cause I thought I had done so yet I can't find such programs as skype and chromium, things you'd think would be quite simple to get a hold of.
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Yea I actually think I kinda jumped the gun on zypper. It's not that bad. How do you suggest I "get Yast/Packagekit out of the way?". Also, how do I update the repositories? Cause I thought I had done so yet I can't find such programs as skype and chromium, things you'd think would be quite simple to get a hold of.
Skype and Chromium have never been "easy" to get a hold of in the Linux world from my experience since they are never included in the official distro directories. I will dig around and see if I can get the direct links for you but I recommend going to openSUSE's package/program download database here. Search for what you want and use the "1-click download" links as they are different from the package name links. The 1 clicks feed into yast and pull in the dependencies from what I remember making it much easier on you.

If you absolutely need direct links to the correct ones I'll dig them up for you later on in the week when I have more time to verify them. But, you really won't need it.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that when you don't depend on yast or try using Kpackagekit they become something you don't worry about. I just set the update applets to remind me in the longest amount of time they allow. That saves the headaches of it blocking zypper. Just don't try removing these things as they for some reason love taking zypper/the rest of the OS out with them.
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Haha I guess I'll just have to get used to not being able to slap a sudo pacman -S skype down anymore.

Thanks for the help either way.

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Arch includes Skype in the default repos? That would be impressive to me. I know that Kubuntu 10.10 was the first time I didn't have to find Chromium myself outside of MeeGo.
     
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Haha yea man. Arch repos are astounding. Next time you have run an install of arch give it a go.
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the 32 bit repo's include skype on arch, i just installed 64 bit, and had to use yaourt to get skype.
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