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Originally Posted by Kand;12053752 
What netbook was that, I might ask?

It's an HP mini netbook, 10.1" screen.
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post #32 of 64
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;12053500 
Where would it fit though?

It would block the screen or keyboard if it when anywhere in front.
Reception may be blocked if docked under the keyboard in the base. Also, it would add thickness to the base.

I'm sure some enterprising engineer will solve that problem someday. The current "plug it in like an Atari 2600 cartridge" seems a little awkward.

I would expect the "ultimate vision" would be for the phone to lie flat when docked, maybe even in such a way that the "laptop" could be closed with the phone enclosed inside, making it easier to carry around as a laptop. It's a "nice to have" to be sure, but for we semi-mobile people who just carry laptops from one conference room to another, it would make sense.
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Originally Posted by fish;12053628 
a lot of people would still opt for a netbook than a tablet. you can't type reports on a tablet.

Well, you can...I've seen people doing "real" typing on an iPad. I wouldn't care for it too much, but I suspect it may be something that one could grow accustomed to. I guess I won't know until I get one...
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon;12054740 
I'm sure some enterprising engineer will solve that problem someday. The current "plug it in like an Atari 2600 cartridge" seems a little awkward.

I would expect the "ultimate vision" would be for the phone to lie flat when docked, maybe even in such a way that the "laptop" could be closed with the phone enclosed inside, making it easier to carry around as a laptop. It's a "nice to have" to be sure, but for we semi-mobile people who just carry laptops from one conference room to another, it would make sense.

Where though? It is not an engineering issue but a design issue.... there is not enough real-estate.

The docking station can be made super-thin as it is just a screen + keyboard + battery. For the phone to lie flat, the dock would have to be either thick or longer. I am assuming though phones will always be thicker than a keyboard.
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;12054920 
Where though? It is not an engineering issue but a design issue.... there is not enough real-estate.

The docking station can be made super-thin as it is just a screen + keyboard + battery. For the phone to lie flat, the dock would have to be either thick or longer. I am assuming though phones will always be thicker than a keyboard.

Well again, maybe I'm thinking of traditional laptops more than netbooks, since that's what I have. But looking at the laptop sitting on my desk, I see a DVD drive that wouldn't be needed...slide the phone into that space?

Granted, such a form factor would certainly make it bigger than the "most portable" laptop-ish dock out there...but may be worth it for some folks.
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post #35 of 64
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Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo;12052659 
That makes sense, considering all the hype over the built in GPU. I'm thinking Intel will probably develop a dual or single core version for tablets, and probably phase out Atoms in the netbook market.
They're definitely going to do the latter bit, AMDs Fusion looks to kill Atom.
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Originally Posted by Domino;12053008 
Sig rig is a tablet PC with a 6 cell. Gets 5 hours of use out of it. wink.gif

They can easily make this PC lighter, and furthermore longer lasting. Simply disable 3 cores (if quad) and lower the GPU clock speed dramatically. A single sandybridge core and low clocked intel GPU is far enough for HD playback and simple searching the internet/note taking/programing (internet).

He means typing, onscreen keyboards are much slower to type on than physical keyboards.
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Originally Posted by lordikon;12053658 
I couldn't do 80 wpm on a netbook either, keyboard is tiny. However, I get your point, typing does indeed suck on a tablet. I always love when news states generic crap like "Phasing out product in one segment by another product in a completely other segment!". This is like when people claim laptops will complete replace desktops. People making claims like these have no idea what they're talking about. Please tell me how a laptop will phase out my work PC that has 3 24" monitors.

I could type faster on my netbook (Acer Aspire One) than on any tablets I've tried, hell, I could type faster on my HTC Dream's keyboard.
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Originally Posted by lordikon;12054047 
It's an HP mini netbook, 10.1" screen.

Well, there's your problem.
    
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post #36 of 64
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Originally Posted by lordikon;12054047 
It's an HP mini netbook, 10.1" screen.

That had such a bad keyboard on it. :I
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon;12052718 
Yes and no. The ultra-portable form factor will always have a niche of users that don't want/can't use a tablet. But the term "netbook" will eventually die off, IMHO...that product space does not need its own classification.

But tablets aren't even the biggest threat to netbooks...the Atrix concept is. If I can carry my phone around all day, but then when I need a screen+keyboard to do "netbook type work" I can just plug that phone into a portable laptop-shaped docking station...then what purpose does a netbook serve at all? If Atrix works and takes off, that's the end for netbooks for sure.

I'd love a powerful device like that, but you'd have to carry the docking station with you if you want to do work on the go--defeating the purpose of an all-in-one device. True, it would be awesome to not have multiple locations for data, etc., but I wonder if that concept will ever truely come to fruition.

I don't like the "netbook" market (and I think the worst thing to come to the mobile computing industry is the Atom CPU--it's only held back progress in the mobile computing industry). But tablets or no tablets, laptops and small form-factor laptops are here to stay. I could never do the work I do on a tablet--even my leisure activities like email, web browsing, etc. I'm too reliant on a keyboard that's separate from my display.
    
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;12052979 


A dual-core CULV SB with a stripped-down chipset would be nice.... even better would be if Intel packaged it as a SoC.

Indeed. dual- to quad-core ULV w/12-24 EUs with power gating and SpeedStep for professionals that don't want to sacrifice performance for portability and battery life.

Intel's prospects in the mobile market are looking brighter especially relative to just a few weeks ago.

But with all the talks of killing netbooks and an ULV SB, where does that leave Atom? Perhaps smartphones?
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Originally Posted by Boyboyd;12052451 
I'm not sure anyone needs a quad-core tablet.

One of the few uses i can think of is something involving medicine.

My friend has a touch screen laptop for drawing, he's an artist sort of...

I guess a tablet would be similar.
    
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This on an android with tegra 2 would be something fun.
     
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