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So I ordered a RevoDrive 80GB to replace my aging WD Raptor 150GB, and a Mushkin Enhanced Callisto Deluxe 40GB to serve as a OS drive in my laptop. I also have ordered 2 Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 64Mb Cache Sata III drive to serve as a date drive in my gaming machine, and a Western Digital Scorpio Black 7200rpm 500GB to replace the 320GB 5400rpm drive as a date drive in my laptop. I have benched all the old drives and plan on posting some performance info on my old and new drives once I get everything up and running.

I have been reading a lot of information here and on the OCZ forums and I was hoping a few things could be clarified for me.

I read that some people are installing Windows to a standard HDD first, setting it up to use a SSD correctly (page file, cache, temp file, TRIM {if available}, etc) then imaging that OS and transferring it to the SSD. I was reading on the OCZ forums, and OCZ made it sound like I should not do that, something to do with proper alignment. Could anyone with a little more information elaborate on the pros and cons of doing it this way?

Also, Write Back Cache, On or Off? I have seen people go both ways, some with benches showing a considerable performance increase with it on.

I also was flipping through OCZ's guide and facts to SSDs and I can along this in big red print. Don't Tweak your OS straight after installing. They did not really elaborate on the specifics of why, or what constitutes tweaking. So anyone with insight on this?

Also anything else anyone thinks would be good for me to know, please let me know.
Edited by Priest - 1/18/11 at 4:35am
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People are far too precious when it comes to SSDs. Why on Earth would you install Windows on a HDD then restore an image to an SSD? Just install Windows straight on to the SSD. Just make sure it's the only drive connected at the time and that AHCI mode is enabled in the BIOS before installing. When it's done, hook your other drive/s up.

I suggest you leave the page file on the SSD and since you have 6GB RAM set it to min and max 1000MB. A page file is needed for memory dumps etc and is best kept on the SSD. Windows 7 will take care of everything as far as "setting up" the SSD. All I do after a fresh install is the page file, switch off hibernate and ensure write caching is enabled.

You also might want to set up your HDD to store your documents etc. I just change the library locations to my HDD. The SSD holds the OS (obviously), apps and some games.

Hope this helps.
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About installing the OS on HDD and transfer it on SSD - not recommended because:
*different alignment
*different system settings (TRIM, etc)
*waste of time, why not installing directly on the SSD
It can be done and even with good results. However, after configuring manually all the settings Windows would have done by itself during setup (alignment, trim, etc), at best if you haven't forgot anything you'd end up with an OS just as good as if it were installed directly on the SSD.
About that warning I guess what they are saying is you should backup before tweaking the OS.

My advice for the setup is to install W7 with only the SSD connected (SATA in AHCI mode) and after the setup is finished to connect all the other drives. The reason is that during setup W7 makes a hidden 200MB system partition - if you don't have HDDs connected you'll force that partition on the SSD (and there is where it should be).
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So I ordered a RevoDrive 80GB to replace my aging WD Raptor 150GB, and a Mushkin Enhanced Callisto Deluxe 40GB to serve as a OS drive in my laptop. I also have ordered 2 Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 64Mb Cache Sata III drive to serve as a date drive in my gaming machine, and a Western Digital Scorpio Black 7200rpm 500GB to replace the 320GB 5400rpm drive as a date drive in my laptop. I have benched all the old drives and plan on posting some performance info on my old and new drives once I get everything up and running.

I have been reading a lot of information here and on the OCZ forums and I was hoping a few things could be clarified for me.

1)I read that some people are installing Windows to a standard HDD first, setting it up to use a SSD correctly (page file, cache, temp file, TRIM {if available}, etc) then imaging that OS and transferring it to the SSD. I was reading on the OCZ forums, and OCZ made it sound like I should not do that, something to do with proper alignment. Could anyone with a little more information elaborate on the pros and cons of doing it this way?

2)Also, Write Back Cache, On or Off? I have seen people go both ways, some with benches showing a considerable performance increase with it on.

I also was flipping through OCZ's guide and facts to SSDs and I can along this in big red print. Don't Tweak your OS straight after installing. They did not really elaborate on the specifics of why, or what constitutes tweaking. So anyone with insight on this?

Also anything else anyone thinks would be good for me to know, please let me know.
1) As far as im aware, there are absoloutely no advantages to this. The disadvantage (like you rightly said) is that the blocks wont be correctly aligned for an SSD and you'll experience quite noticeable slowdowns. You can manualla allign the blocks but it's difficult and time consuming.

2) I have write back cache on. It's more prone to data-corruption, but because i dont have important files on my SSD it doesn't bother me. It's only prone to data corruption if there's a sudden power cut. In your laptop you should be fine though, unless you use it until the battery dies.
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1) As far as im aware, there are absoloutely no advantages to this. The disadvantage (like you rightly said) is that the blocks wont be correctly aligned for an SSD and you'll experience quite noticeable slowdowns. You can manualla allign the blocks but it's difficult and time consuming.
Now I can image either SSD after getting the OS where I want, and restore that image later with out any problems with alignment, correct?
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Yep. Once you've installed Windows and got everything set up the way you want, you can create an image with either Windows Backup and Restore or a 3rd party program. Keep the image saved on another drive. Then, down the track, all you need to do is restore the image and you're good to go in around 10 mins. Alignment is not an issue
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Thanks everyone, I think I will be ready to install when the UPS guy gets here later today, at least if I quit reading more info around the internet.

I should have some benches up tonight or tomorrow. I also ordered 2 6850s to replace my GTX 260 that I will be benching.
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Cool! Enjoy
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