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Hey folks of OCN.


Another request for help regarding 2 diffrent rads


Yesterday I came to the conclusion that i need a new 360 rad.
The current one I have is not quite good (magicool slim 240), and the Black Ice Stealth I own is hardly recogniseable as it actually being a radiator

So, I search your help for picking a new one.


After reading a few reviews I've rounded up 2 rads that are potentially what I am searching for.

Swiftech MCR320
Black Ice GT Stealth

Both are within my budget (70 euros) and they are 360mm.
The rads will be used with Cooler Master R4's, and I really don't want them faster than 1500 rpm, rowdy fans


Now the question is; should I get the Stealth or the MCR?
(or recommend me antoher 240 / 360 that's within the budget )

Thanks in advance!


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the black ice is better, but it needs 2k+ rpm fans or some with high pressure.

iirc the swiftechs have 12? fpi and the black ice is 30 fpi. and btw the r4's arnt good fans for rads.

EDIT: when i meant by needs 2k+ rpm fans, i meant it will benefit form them.
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Both are going to give you similar results however the MCR320 will perform better than the Black Ice with lower-speed fans. If you're not bothered about noise output then you can choose any. The Black Ice shines with very high RPM fans, IIRC. If you're wanting to use lower speed fans then go with the MCR320.
Edited by jNSK - 1/18/11 at 5:49am
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post #4 of 15
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the black ice is better, but it needs 2k+ rpm fans or some with high pressure.

iirc the swiftechs have 12? fpi and the black ice is 30 fpi. and btw the r4's arnt good fans for rads.

EDIT: when i meant by needs 2k+ rpm fans, i meant it will benefit form them.
I know the r4's aren't good radiator fans, but which ones are?
Can you recommend me some good rad fans, that are silent, blue LED's and not insanely expensive?


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Both are going to give you similar results however the MCR320 will perform better than the Black Ice with lower-speed fans. If you're not bothered about noise output then you can choose any. The Black Ice shines with very high RPM fans, IIRC. If you're wanting to use lower speed fans then go with the MCR320.
Since I want my pc to be silent the mcr320 would be better with some low rpm fans?
Or will the Stealth outperform the mcr320 with push / pull with low speed fans?


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Quote:
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I know the r4's aren't good radiator fans, but which ones are?
Can you recommend me some good rad fans, that are silent, blue LED's and not insanely expensive?




Since I want my pc to be silent the mcr320 would be better with some low rpm fans?
Or will the Stealth outperform the mcr320 with push / pull with low speed fans?


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If you want a quiet PC, go with the MCR320 and get some low speed fans. I went with an RX360 (also performs good with low speed fans however is more expensive) and three GT AP-15's. They're the 1850 RPM version but I use a fan controller to turn them down. Gentle Typhoons aren't cheap but they perform well. If you're looking for a cheaper alternative to these, check out Yate Loon's lower-speed fans, they still perform well and are quite a bit cheaper.
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post #6 of 15
The MCR320 radiator is much better at those fans speeds. If you really want the best fans, get some GentleTyphoon 1450 RPM. They are very quiet (about as quiet as those R4s at 1000 RPM) and have a much nicer sound to them. They aren't LED but and LED bar is only about $10 so it'd be better to buy them separately.
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Eh, I have 3 R4's mounted on my mcr320 in my haf x. They do have a nasty habit of buzzing/clicking sometimes, but I think that's just because they're mounted horizontally in the top and they use sleeve bearings. Still worth it for the lighting. IMO you should be fine as long as the fans you get have a decent bearing like dual ball or hydrodynamic. Dual ball bearing fans will last you a looooong time and they're much higher quality in general.
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I vote for the MCR320 with some of this fans if you can find them. They are very good for the money.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25849
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post #9 of 15
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If you want a quiet PC, go with the MCR320 and get some low speed fans. I went with an RX360 (also performs good with low speed fans however is more expensive) and three GT AP-15's. They're the 1850 RPM version but I use a fan controller to turn them down. Gentle Typhoons aren't cheap but they perform well. If you're looking for a cheaper alternative to these, check out Yate Loon's lower-speed fans, they still perform well and are quite a bit cheaper.
Allright, so the mcr320 it is.


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Originally Posted by charliehorse55 View Post
The MCR320 radiator is much better at those fans speeds. If you really want the best fans, get some GentleTyphoon 1450 RPM. They are very quiet (about as quiet as those R4s at 1000 RPM) and have a much nicer sound to them. They aren't LED but and LED bar is only about $10 so it'd be better to buy them separately.
Of course, LED's are not a neccessity, but they add "that little something"

So basically, as you both mention;

Gentle Typhoons are the best, but €11 a piece, and they don't have LED's (they're ugly imo, but I can allways paint them matte /gloss black and white blades)

Yate loons are a cheap solution with LED's, but perform worse.
Personally I like the price, they look ok, and they have LED's.
But, do YT's perform better than a r4?


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Edited by ericie - 1/18/11 at 6:49am
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I vote for the MCR320 with some of this fans if you can find them. They are very good for the money.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25849

I've lost it....

the r4's make 19 dba according to Cooler Master (bollocks I know), and move 70cfm @ 2000rpm

the YT's make 28 dba and move 47 cfm @ 1350 rpm.

don't the YT's need to be at full speed to move enough air?
wouldn't the r4's at lower speed be much better?, more quiet and less rpm, but more cfm


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