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Your NB frequency could be causing the BSOD at 3.8 up that I think it will fix it,
I would loosen timings also.

I dont think its temps, but out of interest whats your case and fan setup?
Edited by Casey Ryback - 1/18/11 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by Casey Ryback View Post
Your NB frequency could be causing the BSOD at 3.8 up that I think it will fix it,
I would loosen timings also.

I dont think its temps, but out of interest whats your case and fan setup?
Cooler Master 330 Elite
Front 120mm Fan
Dual 120mm fans on my Hyper 212+
92MM Rear fan
PSU has 2 92mm fans

BTW I am not getting BSODs, they are complete freezes, requiring restart. The PC then fails to boot and says overclock failed.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by wy2sl0 View Post
Cooler Master 330 Elite
Front 120mm Fan
Dual 120mm fans on my Hyper 212+
92MM Rear fan
PSU has 2 92mm fans

BTW I am not getting BSODs, they are complete freezes, requiring restart. The PC then fails to boot and says overclock failed.
Yeah i kinda guessed it wasnt actual BSOD's but thanks for making that clear.

Maybe that rear 92mm fan not exhausting enough air and if hitting around
57C that could be the instability, and it wont crash the moment it hits the 57 but it will crash later.

Upping the NB frequency will increase heat too, you might have to come down to about 3.7Ghz but go up on the NB for better performance.

If the 92mm fan cant move enough of the air coming from 120mm's on the cpu cooler (which obviously cant) you will have hot air swirling around in there I would think. Maybe buy one more case fan (120mm for back) could help/solve your issue.

Are you using an OC program? I would do it through the bios.
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Yeah i kinda guessed it wasnt actual BSOD's but thanks for making that clear.

Maybe that rear 92mm fan not exhausting enough air and if hitting around
57C that could be the instability, and it wont crash the moment it hits the 57 but it will crash later.

Upping the NB frequency will increase heat too, you might have to come down to about 3.7Ghz but go up on the NB for better performance.

If the 92mm fan cant move enough of the air coming from 120mm's on the cpu cooler (which obviously cant) you will have hot air swirling around in there I would think. Maybe buy one more case fan (120mm for back) could help/solve your issue.

Are you using an OC program? I would do it through the bios.
Yeah I have no idea about the temps, thats possible I guess....I can move my 120mm front fan to the back I guess to make sure the air is getting out...or take the fan totally away from there and use the 92mm as an intake somewhere else....I am using BIOS only

Either way, what voltages are you using and fans to hit your OC? What are your socket temps under IBT?

PS I know the crashes aren't from that....when my PC crashed browsing it was this morning after being off all night...temps were 24* on the MB and 30* on the CPU

Completely driving me nuts... is 57*C @ 1.4v really that bad on a Hyper 212? Do I need to reseat it for the 100th time lol?

Oh and it has some shorting issue...sometimes when I touch ANY usb device to the front usb ports the computer turns off. This has all been quite an experience.....this will be the 10th computer ive built in like the last 2 years and it has been one thing after another.
Edited by wy2sl0 - 1/18/11 at 11:10am
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Yeah I have no idea about the temps, thats possible I guess....I can move my 120mm front fan to the back I guess to make sure the air is getting out...or take the fan totally away from there and use the 92mm as an intake somewhere else....I am using BIOS only

Either way, what voltages are you using and fans to hit your OC? What are your socket temps under IBT?

PS I know the crashes aren't from that....when my PC crashed browsing it was this morning after being off all night...temps were 24* on the MB and 30* on the CPU

Completely driving me nuts... is 57*C @ 1.4v really that bad on a Hyper 212? Do I need to reseat it for the 100th time lol?

Oh and it has some shorting issue...sometimes when I touch ANY usb device to the front usb ports the computer turns off. This has all been quite an experience.....this will be the 10th computer ive built in like the last 2 years and it has been one thing after another.
the 120mm fan needs to be at the back, there is no venting or fans on top of that case. You dont want any air 'hovering' in you case around mobo.
you crash idling so therefore when your cpu fans are down prob too much heat on your mosfets/mobo, with little air movement, while testing you would have more flow am i correct?

I use 1.475 to get 3948Mhz pretty much pushing my limits there especially in australian summer. on 35C plus days I step it back to 3780Mhz on 1.425.
I never see over 45C while gaming on 3780Mhz seems like a good level for the chip for heat/voltage/performance.
I dont want to risk any damage/and dont want hear the cpu fans (1800rpm)go up too loud.

IGNORE THESE VOLTAGES different system different requirements I have an asrock mobo yours should be more efficient being asus.

I have a front 140mm(1200rpm?) front 120mm (1200rpm)

top dual 140mm (all lian li case fans -good quality)

rear zigamatek 120mm goes up to 1500rpm (keeps up with my cooler,)
In other words masses of air flow.

I dont use IBT. I prime95 blends for 12 hours plus never had a problem.
Dont reseat again totally pointless.

Just because it made 8 hours+ and didnt 'cook' doesnt mean heat isnt the issue and wierd crashes happen on an unstable system,

look at it like this, the overclock was never actually stable but you thought it was, seemed fine with the heat and didnt crash during testing,
doesnt mean it wont crash idling, which is a dead giveaway of instability and could be heat related even though it didnt crash in 8 hours of prime.

Have you tried upping that Northbridge yet?
The Northbridge is the CPU's 'communicator' so to speak for the RAM and graphics and an overclocked machine can require a slight increase in NB frequency,

Also make sure that HT close as possible to 2000Mhz doesnt matter if it is slightly lower, just better to be closer, wont affect performance. Sorry to repeat i wanna eliminate all possibilites

Maybe you got some bad wiring in those usb ports very rare indeed i would say maybe unhook them and see what happens..............

its getting interesting now lol
dont worry we'll get there.
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post #16 of 20
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Ok so a couple things.

Computer would not post at all...just sat mini restarting last night after sitting for a long time. Went back to default, changed settings more conservatively.

3.7ghz @ 1.30v idle, 1.34v ibt
CPUNB 1.2v @ 21xx mhz
HT auto V @ 19xx mhz
Dram back to stock 9-9-9-24 @ 1.55v

10 pass IBT stable. Used PC all night, hd streaming etc, no halts, posts fine everytime.

Also went and bought 3 extra coolermaster R4's 120mm, should be here later tonight. I am going to increase the tension on my hyper 212 by doing the washer mod, cut out the mesh on the back of the case to improve airflow for the 120mm, and add a shroud around the push fan for the Hyper. Well see where that takes me, and somehow I am going to try to rig a fan blowing on the northbridge chipset, which already has a massive heatsink.
post #17 of 20
So it wouldnt post with NB up around 2400Mhz?, that sucks itll give you better gaming performance,

I saw more consistency of frame rates, less glitches and a higher average frame rate when i went from NB 2200Mhz to 2500Mhz ( I was testing on Mafia 2 benchmark)

Good luck with future OCing!
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So it wouldnt post with NB up around 2400Mhz?, that sucks itll give you better gaming performance,

I saw more consistency of frame rates, less glitches and a higher average frame rate when i went from NB 2200Mhz to 2500Mhz ( I was testing on Mafia 2 benchmark)

Good luck with future OCing!
No I mean it wouldn't even post around 22xx, there was something wrong....I have no idea...I am RMA'ing the board anyways tonight it has the annoying ASUS New CPU Installed error everytime I boot....we'll see from there tonight.....

Thanks for the help ill keep you updated.
post #19 of 20
If your BSODing from web browsing, and reasonably stable in prime etc, it would suggest the cause of your BSOD is driver based?

Have you got the BSOD code
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If your BSODing from web browsing, and reasonably stable in prime etc, it would suggest the cause of your BSOD is driver based?

Have you got the BSOD code
Thats the thing, it doesn't BSOD, it just halts....

Hasn't done it in over a day though, I think it is better suited to 3.7 ghz, or at least until I change my mobo tonight, then well see
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