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May?
Decade's just begun, big guy.


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CO2 ain't the only greenhouse gas grasshopper. And besides, the process may use CO2, but I'll bet money the gases burned out the tailpipes in cars outweigh the gases used to make the fuel.
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Joule says its “solar converter” technology makes the manufacture of liquid fossil fuels 50 times as efficient as conventional biofuel production – and eliminates as much as 90 per cent of carbon dioxide emissions.
How long are we going to play this game, buddy?
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While youre at it, why dont you complain that we dont have faster than light travel....

Progress is progress, this is nothing to sneeze at. We can pull out the middle east and spend less military resources in the area. Less money going out for oil means more money inside the states, which means our debt rate should decrease.
"Progress", is that what you call this? Really?

We've had fuel-cell cars that burn NO gas and only put out H20 for 50 years now. Heck. Chrysler invented the prototype. Dirt cheap gas is one of several things that keep such things from being common.

Chevrolet just sank billions into an electric car program, that may well go belly-up after this.
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So will cars perform the same or will they perform better? e.g. performance and economy?
They will perform the same since the oil won't make that much of a difference in performance in your car. And higher grade fuels only help so much. Cars still perform to what the engine is built to go at.

But this sounds like a great breakthrough and hopefully gas will go below $3/gallon here in idaho.
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CO2 ain't the only greenhouse gas grasshopper. And besides, the process may use CO2, but I'll bet money the gases burned out the tailpipes in cars outweigh the gases used to make the fuel.
I don't think it's possible to produce more gases than you use to create the oil... But I'm not that far in my education
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a genetically adapted E. coli bacterium – that feeds solely on carbon dioxide and excretes liquid hydrocarbons: diesel fuel, jet fuel and gasoline.
This renews things that is already there (the carbon dioxide that is already there) and re-using it, therefore halting global warming, while we get more solar power out there.
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If this is true then yay. Been looking into some Acura TL 6MTs. I was not looking forward to the prospect of running out of combustible fuel.
 
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If this works, it could help keep CO2 in check while providing us fuel AND we won't have to deal with middle eastern countries anymore.

Although personally I'd rather that we still look for alternatives and IMPROVEMENTS.
    
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"Progress", is that what you call this? Really?

We've had fuel-cell cars that burn NO gas and only put out H20 for 50 years now. Heck. Chrysler invented the prototype. Dirt cheap gas is one of several things that keep such things from being common.

Chevrolet just sank billions into an electric car program, that may well go belly-up after this.
How about instead of sinking billions into something that doesn't even work well, we start making billions with technology that is pragmatic not only economically but from an environmental perspective too?
Edited by flamingoyster - 1/18/11 at 9:08am
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I don't think it's possible to produce more gases than you use to create the oil... But I'm not that far in my education
The energy required to take CO2 to oil will be immense AND it has to feed on SOMETHING while giving off waste.

Its similar to when we eat. We might consume 500 calories but the body can only convert around 30% of it to energy.

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"Progress", is that what you call this? Really?

We've had fuel-cell cars that burn NO gas and only put out H20 for 50 years now. Heck. Chrysler invented the prototype. Dirt cheap gas is one of several things that keep such things from being common.

Chevrolet just sank billions into an electric car program, that may well go belly-up after this.
Eh, it's kinda like sideways-progress but I do agree with you. And forget fuel-cells, we've had the ability to have our cars run on hydrogen fuel a LONG time ago. The conversion process is simple AND still uses the combustion engine.

http://www.newsreview.com/chico/content?oid=25753
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Great so when do fuel prices start to drop?
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