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Bad, VERY bad news. TERRIBLE news for us people who actually care for our environment.
And how is that? I think it is a far smarter move than "sequestering carbon" or having fake "carbon trading markets" - since this technology, if it comes to fruition, would entirely take care of the carbon cycle. And emissions would be cleaner, since we wouldn't have big petrochemical companies dumping their waste products into the fuels, garbage like sulphur (which hasn't been needed in the past 80 years).

If people cared about the environment, they would get rid of their inefficiencies, like working closer to home so they could walk, or getting rid of the four SUVs in the driveway...
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The K-T impact event didn't involve ridiculous levels of radiation.
Dude, it'd just make a bunch of superheroes..get it right.
    
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I think converting to electric vehicles though in the aggregate is much more efficient and green because electric power doesn't create heat (or as much.) If all cars suddenly went electric, there would be much less CO2 in the air because only a few sources in a city would be burning things.
Gasoline engines are much less efficient than a highly regulated power plant - so a power plant is capable of producing far more power per unit of CO2 produced. A power plant can also use the most advanced technologies to attain efficient conversion as well as to maximize clean emissions. However, most power plants do not operate that way, as they look at maximizing short term profits, and will only "invest" when the law or cost-benefit shows they can score fast profits.

Electric cars are not an ideal solution. The problem we have is that cities have grown inefficient, with onerous zoning that removes business and industry from the areas where people live. Thus, people are forced to commute to and from work. Not only does this drive energy use, it also creates the culture of obesity and bad health that are driving us to bankruptcy. All of our "problems" are interlinked, and are all derived from destroying the "old ways" which centered on us living within walking range of our homes - and instead, migrating to suburbia, with people driving for an hour, or even two or three hours, back and forth to work.

I live in a city which suffers from that exact malady. Local jobs are so rare that to have one makes one an elite, while everyone else has to schlep their way on overcrowded highways to distant work places, with a million cars idling for hours at a time, with road rage and bad health all around. Electric cars would help with pollution, to an extent, but to actually bring work places closer to where people actually live, where people could take buses or simply walk, and to have infrastructure where people could work from home, these would yield very real benefits.
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If people cared about the environment, they would get rid of their inefficiencies, like working closer to home so they could walk, or getting rid of the four SUVs in the driveway...
I do get rid of em. My car barely uses 6L/100km, I mostly use train as main transport, I use inverter-based heating instead of petrol-based, and there isn't a single incandescent lamp in my whole house (apart from the two halogens on the dining room, but that's aesthetics).

And take for granted that when I own a house of mine (not shared) it will be green powered. And in the States (take that, consumism).


I think petrol is necessary, but just for the chemical industry. If we think twice about what do we need, we won't need to use petrol to generate electricity, move cars, heat houses, and so on.
   
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i like how there are people in here making a big deal when they fail to realize that this was sponsered by the U.S. Government. since when, in our history, has the government EVER succeeded in ANYTHING and shared it with the general public?

the common people will never see this.
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has the government EVER succeeded in ANYTHING and shared it with the general public?
internet?
    
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i like how there are people in here making a big deal when they fail to realize that this was sponsered by the U.S. Government. since when, in our history, has the government EVER succeeded in ANYTHING and shared it with the general public?

the common people will never see this.
What an ignorant statement. I could write a list longer than your would care to read, I'll just point out a few more well known examples.

The Internet
Microelectronics
The freeway system
Trauma medicine
Nuclear energy
e-mail
cellular telephones
gps
wireless networking

etc., etc., etc.
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What an ignorant statement. I could write a list longer than your would care to read, I'll just point out a few more well known examples.

The Internet
Microelectronics
The freeway system
Trauma medicine
Nuclear energy
etc., etc., etc.
not an ignorant statement when its true that the government do not share when it comes to break through technology that will actually help the world.

oh, and trauma medicine has been around for a VERY long time.

anything resulting from the internet, falls under the internet slot. including your email one. youre now stating things NOT entirely done by the U.S. government itself.

trust me...there are things in huachuca (sure you know of it) that most people do not see...
Edited by r3skyline - 1/23/11 at 9:43am
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There are things in Huachuca that many people do not see YET. There are also things in Huachuca that many people will never see but that contain technology that will make it into mainstream consumer products shortly.
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There are things in Huachuca that many people do not see YET. There are also things in Huachuca that many people will never see but that contain technology that will make it into mainstream consumer products shortly.
no, huachuca is not a "yet". its a never.

you guys hear about it in the news and such, but very RARELY seen.
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