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No such thing as idiot dreamers, the more absurd their dreams, the higher probability they will succeed, and this is coming from a 13 year old
+1000 wow great post coming from someone your age
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Can someone explain to me why cold fusion isn't so far fetched? I was under the impression that the idea was spawned by the mis-analysis of hydrogen escaping from the platinum crystal structure.
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No such thing as idiot dreamers, the more absurd their dreams, the higher probability they will succeed, and this is coming from a 13 year old
I get what you're saying, but this is demonstrably untrue.. if something is more absurd than something else, the probability that it will happen is lower than the less absurd thing, not higher.

For instance: saying I will create a car that runs on chocolate milk and gets 400000MPG is absurd.

Saying I will invent a car that runs on hydrogen and gets 100mpg is still pretty far fetched, but much less so.

Which one has a higher probability of happening? If I were to graph the correlation between absurdity and probability it'd be clear that they're oppositely related..

then again, "absurdity" is subjective but you get what I mean.
    
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Time to get a TDI Jetta

Investing some $ in Joule Unlimited Inc is probably a good idea too
Edited by Stealth2o - 6/4/11 at 10:19pm
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And people like you who make broad, useless, trolling assumptions are the people who turn news threads sour.
Isn't that what you just did with the 'hippies'?

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You know nothing about me, so don't act like you do. Be gone troll.
I don't need to know you to respond to what you wrote. There was nothing broad, useless, trolling or assuming about me comprehending your disdain for people who hold nature in high regard when you made the broad, useless, trolling comment that they were all hippies. I don't need to be your friend or therapist to do that much.
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I get what you're saying, but this is demonstrably untrue.. if something is more absurd than something else, the probability that it will happen is lower than the less absurd thing, not higher.

For instance: saying I will create a car that runs on chocolate milk and gets 400000MPG is absurd.

Saying I will invent a car that runs on hydrogen and gets 100mpg is still pretty far fetched, but much less so.

Which one has a higher probability of happening? If I were to graph the correlation between absurdity and probability it'd be clear that they're oppositely related..

then again, "absurdity" is subjective but you get what I mean.
Agreed, but saying cold fusion is from idiot dreamers is just a ridiculous statement, if it was an idiots dream why have govt and many scientists poored alot of money into it only to be ridiculed and harassed shut down completely when breakthroughs are made, this is a pattern in most alternative/free energy movements, big oil has the world by the balls including govt and anytime someone does quality research or claims to have a hypothesis on how to create free energy they are ridiculed by mainstream science foundations with ties to said oil tycoons and told its impossible, somethings got to change and whether its cold fusion or scotty's warp drive we need to get away from fossilized fuels
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I get what you're saying, but this is demonstrably untrue.. if something is more absurd than something else, the probability that it will happen is lower than the less absurd thing, not higher.

For instance: saying I will create a car that runs on chocolate milk and gets 400000MPG is absurd.

Saying I will invent a car that runs on hydrogen and gets 100mpg is still pretty far fetched, but much less so.

Which one has a higher probability of happening? If I were to graph the correlation between absurdity and probability it'd be clear that they're oppositely related..

then again, "absurdity" is subjective but you get what I mean.
http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/

Gets 61 mpg equivalent so a hydrogen powered car getting 100MPG looks pretty feasible.


I really hope that this fuel producing bacteria actually works on a commercial scale.

I have a quick question though. Can this e.coli still reproduce on its own, or do the researchers need to do something to make more?

My 1 worry is that if it can reproduce on its own, what would happen if it got lose into a standing body or water or river? Wouldn't it start secreting the hydrocarbons all over the place?
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http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/

Gets 61 mpg equivalent so a hydrogen powered car getting 100MPG looks pretty feasible.


I really hope that this fuel producing bacteria actually works on a commercial scale.

I have a quick question though. Can this e.coli still reproduce on its own, or do the researchers need to do something to make more?

My 1 worry is that if it can reproduce on its own, what would happen if it got lose into a standing body or water or river? Wouldn't it start secreting the hydrocarbons all over the place?
ecoli was an typo in the article, the op states they can do it with only carbon dioxide, sunlight and cyanobacterium and will start minor production next year
Edited by Ironcobra - 6/4/11 at 10:31pm
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And people like you who make broad, useless, trolling assumptions are the people who turn news threads sour.

You know nothing about me, so don't act like you do. Be gone troll.
Nearly god-mode troll. Well done.
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Can someone explain to me why cold fusion isn't so far fetched? I was under the impression that the idea was spawned by the mis-analysis of hydrogen escaping from the platinum crystal structure.
http://www.youtube.com/user/AllgoodA.../1/htgV7fNO-2k
cool little docu with the quantum leap guy so its got to be real, might help it shows arguments from both sides
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