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Originally Posted by FairDoos View Post
So will cars perform the same or will they perform better? e.g. performance and economy?
same fuels but now we can have them in unlimited supply


wich is the win part of that announcement


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And set non-fossil fuel efforts back decades.
the whole reason we needed non fossil fuel sources was because of how we drill for oil .. but with this its rendered pointless to research for other sources ....


and btw cars each year get cleaner emissions out of their tailpipes ....


so i dont see why its a bad thing


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Originally Posted by Skripka View Post
CO2 ain't the only greenhouse gas grasshopper. And besides, the process may use CO2, but I'll bet money the gases burned out the tailpipes in cars outweigh the gases used to make the fuel.

research anti pollution laws and you should see where we are heading ....


stricter anti pollution laws wich is good for the world


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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
Also, depending on how pure the hydrocarbons are, this could potentially be very green. Burning fossil fuels only creates CO2 and water, the harmful gasses like CO come from impurities. If this stuff is pure we could burn it for fuel, and then take the leftover CO2 and convert it back into fuel and burn it again, which means the only by product is water.

but you have to remember that the fuel in your tank is a blend ... a mix of fuel ... detergants ... other hydrocarbon to modify the burn rate etc.... so all of those chemicals interact into the final chemical equation ... so with mixed solution you would need a perfect catalyc converter to filter perfectly ... and not only that you would need a perfect burn to also help in that .. so no ... fuels dont turn into co2 and water .....


they form a very toxic mix that is transformed into something less toxic .... and that is the layer that can be processed .... the other toxic gasses that exit couldnt be transformed ... this is why diesels have multiple converter ... like DPF to filter out the soot ... oxidation catalyser and another one in the end that i dont remember its exact role ...
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if it's too good to be true, most likely is >.>
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good, it's about time the oil companies pay for jacking up the prices of gas.....
See Kuwait prior to Operation Desert Storm.
    
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oil company's wont let this work, it'll cut into their profits.
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the whole reason we needed non fossil fuel sources was because of how we drill for oil .. but with this its rendered pointless to research for other sources
I cant agree with this, do u really think fossil fuels will power rockets to leave the solar system what about stoping the massive amounts of pollution from burning of fossil fuels. If we can create a free energy device our level of technology will go from caveman to star trek overnight, without smaller more efficient energy devices our technology will plateau very soon or we will continue world wars until theres no 1 left
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oil company's wont let this work, it'll cut into their profits.

This..


Oil company will buy the invention from the inventor for large sums of money then put that tech away so no one can use it ever except the oil company which they own that tech (like patenting).
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Isn't that what you just did with the 'hippies'?

I don't need to know you to respond to what you wrote. There was nothing broad, useless, trolling or assuming about me comprehending your disdain for people who hold nature in high regard when you made the broad, useless, trolling comment that they were all hippies. I don't need to be your friend or therapist to do that much.
See, there you go again assuming you know me or what I think. So the phrase "good luck getting past the hippies" implies I have "disdain for people who hold nature in high regard"? Not even in the slightest. Comprehending and assuming are two entirely different things, and you're drawing wild assumptions from very little information.

Someone mentioned the oil reserves under Alaska, and I mentioned that they are under wildlife preserves. What I said actually added at least a little something. All you did was jump down my throat for calling environmental activist extremists who want absolutely zero drilling in Alaska hippies. So yes, what you said was broad, useless, and trolling.

You then clumped me into some stereotypical, made up (I say made up because there's positively no way you can substantiate this stereotype) group "who say 'drill baby, drill' (and) are the first ones to cry when a massive spill happens" which is, again, another wild assumption.

You're obviously just trying to stir **** up. You do it constantly. Obvious troll is obvious.
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Nearly god-mode troll. Well done.
Ty. Maybe now he'll stop, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Am I the only one who thinks they'll be the target of a massive petrol funded assassination?
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Am I the only one who thinks they'll be the target of a massive petrol funded assassination?
They're all dead.
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Can't wait to see all the green activists start shouting "OMG IT MAKES MROE FOSSIL FUELS THAT WILL KILL US ALL!!!!"

Sad to say, that the electricity that they think will make cars more efficient still takes fossil fuels to generate.

This actually takes the polluttion made by fossil fuels, and re-uses them. To hell with electric cars.
in quebec 97% of our electric grid is powered by hydro-electricity ... clean power baby


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Have you researched why solar energy is "expensive"? Solar energy is the most efficient energy source out there, in fact there's more energy in 1 hour of sunlight than the whole planet consumes in a year.


but the thing is how much energy can a single solar panel or a small solar panel array get you and wich price is it ...


solar energy isnt worth it yet .... think about it .... it might be one of the most aboundant form of energy but its not the most practicle solution out there today


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Looking at the last 50 years or so of oil-driven economy it is easy to see how wrong you are with this comment.

using the past to form your argument on something that is supose to change the way we get our oil .... hummm why do i think it sounds stupid ...



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Catalytic Converter

Read it for the info on how we deal with a lot of those issues and what some of those issues are.

even so ... those converter can only transform a specific gas mixture at a certain heat level ....


so again .... lots of toxic gasses still go through intreated .... think about it ... the air isnt pure o2 and one pure specific hydrocarbon .. its a blend of lots of stuff ... detergent ... burn rate modifier and other stuff ... so in short everything people say about chemistry is wrong because they didnt take those variable into the equation


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A cat still isn't perfect though. Take a smog test and you'll see that those gases still pass the cat.
because the mix entering the engine isnt pure .....


pure o2 and say a pure hydrocarbon sample with nothing else would create a specific gas and that specific gas can be turned into something else via a catalyc converter ... but since we blend our fuels and the air contains oxygen,argon,nitrogen, and other stuff it makes it complicated to monitor all the time so they make these catalyc converter for a certain specific gas and be done with it and try to limit the amount of air entering the engine to help the converter work better ...


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screw the v10 f1 cars. Bring back the twin turbo charged f1 cars pushing over 71 psi of boost.
link of such an amazing spec car running ... i mean twin turbo 70psi engine how did they made it not knock is an amazement


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Originally Posted by Smoblikat View Post
thats right our country DOESNT invade countries randomly , (except in the late 1800's when we attacked mexico to steal its territory for no reason).
BTW
O.peration
I.raqui
L.ibertaion
ring any bells? It was the origonal codename for our invasion.

you sir have the best evidence ever posted on such debate .... wow i cant believe i didnt see that ....



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If you think the US will ever "break free" from the middle east OR that the USA is only buying it because they need it, you couldn't be more wrong.
eee you are so wrong .. they have deals with the royal families in saudi arabia so they get their fuel at a certain price ....

and in exchange they provide personal protection in the form of their army ... read up on it ... an american explorer found oil a while ago but since it wasnt his soil he couldnt claim it but instead the government made a deal with the other governement ... makes sense right???



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I agree.

Can this bio oil help us with the looming threat of zombies?

bio oil + flamethrower = bbq


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no such thing as free energy...huh...its this type of thinking that keeps man on fossil fuels, what is cold fusion or rodin coil for example? am i missing something?
fusion is still using energy to extract energy out of something ...


dunno about that coil thing ... but im sure it obeys the laws of physic like everything in our planet


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See Kuwait prior to Operation Desert Storm.
saudi arabia had a deal with the us ... petrol for protection ... and this is why they went there in the first place
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