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Having grown up in Los Angeles, this makes me weep for our air. We need to shed ourselves of oil dependency.
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I'm sure it's been said before but regardless if these are renewable biofuels or current-day fossil fuels, the internal combustion engine is very inefficient and it's waste product is CO2 which is destroying our atmosphere.

Yes, getting off of foreign oil is good for all the wars and politics, but it is not the global solution. The ice caps are still melting. Temperatures are still rising. THE RATE IN WHICH OUR SPECIES WILL END IS ACCELERATING!

Anything short of a revolution in how we commute and produce energy is a waste of breath. Sure, this technology will work for us to reduce gas prices, but that's only passing the problem onto the next generation...if that.

***Also, the USA uses 18 MILLION barrels of oil PER DAY. A 5000 acre farm of biofuels with infant-like infrastructure isn't going make a dent in our dependence on foreign oil or our pocketbooks. (just my opinion though)
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I'm sure it's been said before but regardless if these are renewable biofuels or current-day fossil fuels, the internal combustion engine is very inefficient and it's waste product is CO2 which is destroying our atmosphere.

Yes, getting off of foreign oil is good for all the wars and politics, but it is not the global solution. The ice caps are still melting. Temperatures are still rising. THE RATE IN WHICH OUR SPECIES WILL END IS ACCELERATING!

Anything short of a revolution in how we commute and produce energy is a waste of breath. Sure, this technology will work for us to reduce gas prices, but that's only passing the problem onto the next generation...if that.

***Also, the USA uses 18 MILLION barrels of oil PER DAY. A 5000 acre farm of biofuels with infant-like infrastructure isn't going make a dent in our dependence on foreign oil or our pocketbooks. (just my opinion though)
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O please is your head in the sand?, yea big oil has no influence on advancement of alternative energy tesla was crazy afterall and didnt know what he was talking about, he should of listened to jp morgan and canned his ac power systems they said was impossible and wouldnt work, and he was stupid thinking u could transfer power without wires, it had nothing to do with his career being destroyed, no such thing as influence of money Scientists are harmless people who are always looking out for the people right?
Looks like somebody needs to study logic a bit.
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I'm sure it's been said before but regardless if these are renewable biofuels or current-day fossil fuels, the internal combustion engine is very inefficient and it's waste product is CO2 which is destroying our atmosphere.

Yes, getting off of foreign oil is good for all the wars and politics, but it is not the global solution. The ice caps are still melting. Temperatures are still rising. THE RATE IN WHICH OUR SPECIES WILL END IS ACCELERATING!

Anything short of a revolution in how we commute and produce energy is a waste of breath. Sure, this technology will work for us to reduce gas prices, but that's only passing the problem onto the next generation...if that.

***Also, the USA uses 18 MILLION barrels of oil PER DAY. A 5000 acre farm of biofuels with infant-like infrastructure isn't going make a dent in our dependence on foreign oil or our pocketbooks. (just my opinion though)
..You realize the ice on earth has been melting since the end of the last ice age, correct?

Of course this technology isn't going to end our need for oil imports over night. I don't think anyone expected it would. However, we have to start somewhere.

Also. Here's an interesting story. A WW2 aircraft, nicknamed "Glacier Girl" was forced to land on an ice sheet in Greenland on 15 July 1942. The aircraft was rediscovered over 50 years later, found buried beneath 270 feet of ice. (it has since been restored to working condition) If the ice sheets on Greenland are truly evaporating, why was this aircraft buried 270 feet beneath the ice? Wouldn't that mean it's increasing, at a rate of approximately 5 feet per year? Now, granted, there may be a logical explanation, but it's interesting nonetheless.
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I don't see how an oil company could keep this quiet. It seems like there would be an incredible amount of money to be made in reducing the cost of oil to the populous, and someone would be willing to run with it.

I'd burn my face off before I'd let an oil company stifle progress.
The oil companies won't be looking to stifle this new technology, they'll be looking to buy in...
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Oh god not the global warming brigade. Why does everybody think that the climate we have today is the only climate this planet is ever going to have? The polar ice caps are going to melt and then they're going to come back just like they have for the last 4,000,000,000 years. The arrogance to think that mankind could keep the climate the way it is now for ever....
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Also. Here's an interesting story. A WW2 aircraft, nicknamed "Glacier Girl" was forced to land on an ice sheet in Greenland on 15 July 1942. The aircraft was rediscovered over 50 years later, found buried beneath 270 feet of ice. (it has since been restored to working condition) If the ice sheets on Greenland are truly evaporating, why was this aircraft buried 270 feet beneath the ice? Wouldn't that mean it's increasing, at a rate of approximately 5 feet per year? Now, granted, there may be a logical explanation, but it's interesting nonetheless.
There are places where the glaciers are growing, and places where they are melting, just the same as there are trees in a forest that are growing, and trees that are dead. If you find more and more dead trees, and the trees that are growing aren't growing as quickly as they were before, then you need to worry about your forest disappearing.

Also, global warming is properly known as global climate change for a reason. there are some consequences that take effect as increased cold. I am not a meteorologist, so I don't know why, but I believe it, because the opposing voices argue against the greenhouse effect, which anyone can verify with some relatively easy experiments.


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Oh god not the global warming brigade. Why does everybody think that the climate we have today is the only climate this planet is ever going to have? The polar ice caps are going to melt and then they're going to come back just like they have for the last 4,000,000,000 years. The arrogance to think that mankind could keep the climate the way it is now for ever....
I had written this paragraph on general principles, and it wasn't addressed to anyone, and then your post came in as I was writing it, proving me oh so right. I don't know how anyone can argue that humans aren't destroying our planet when it's been known as a fact for decades that we put holes in our ozone layer. It's like, hey, you know that thing where we're afraid to go out into natural light without sunscreen, and how in Europe SPF15 was recognized as insufficient some time last week or so? Yeah. That's not supposed to be like that.
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So.... no one cares about making less polluting energy and thinks that keeping the ability to drive our cars in ever increasing numbers is a good thing? We are going kill our atmosphere people... finding unlimited fossil fuel is NOT a good thing as it will just keep the pollution on the rise. Everyone here is just saying I will be able to drive my crazy car more... think about the pollution - think about generations to come.

This is so short sighted.
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O please is your head in the sand?, yea big oil has no influence on advancement of alternative energy tesla was crazy afterall and didnt know what he was talking about, he should of listened to jp morgan and canned his ac power systems they said was impossible and wouldnt work, and he was stupid thinking u could transfer power without wires, it had nothing to do with his career being destroyed, no such thing as influence of money Scientists are harmless people who are always looking out for the people right?
although not on a large scale but didn't Tesla actually achieve this?
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