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This IS solar energy. In fact, it produces less waste than solar power systems that use batteries.
So how does this burn clean enough that it produces such little excess? I didn't see anything in the article mentioning the emissions, just the production of this material.
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So how does this burn clean enough that it produces such little excess? I didn't see anything in the article mentioning the emissions, just the production of this material.
Only "emmissions" I can think of are a moderate amount of heat and dead ecoli.
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So how does this burn clean enough that it produces such little excess? I didn't see anything in the article mentioning the emissions, just the production of this material.
The CO2 consumed to create the fuel will offset the CO2 exhausted from the cars. Since the only things used to create the fuel are water and CO2, ostensibly if all fuel were created through this method, the net addition of CO2 to the environment would be...close to zero?

Time for class, will be checking this thread compulsively later on.
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39.2% efficient.

The most exciting part is that it can make water.
And you thought you had google to fear taking over the world.
About damn time. Only catch is how expensive they'll be. High-efficiency panels are mucho bucks right now.
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post #75 of 801
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So how does this burn clean enough that it produces such little excess? I didn't see anything in the article mentioning the emissions, just the production of this material.


The outputs are the same as the inputs.

When you burn the gas it creates, the 'waste' released by your car gets used to make your next tank of gas. Its like recycling.

The emissions are the same as oil from Iraq, but those emissions are cleaned up when the next generation of bacteria go to work making more gas.


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The CO2 consumed to create the fuel will offset the CO2 exhausted from the cars. Since the only things used to create the fuel are water and CO2, ostensibly if all fuel were created through this method, the net addition of CO2 to the environment would be...close to zero?

Time for class, will be checking this thread compulsively later on.

That's how I understand it, yes. The net result would be exactly zero, but the facility where the stuff gets made will be hooked into the grid, so their lights, temperature control, and other stuff will be partially dependent on coal burning power plants. Same as the factories where solar PV panels are made, or wind turbines, or wave generators, or anything else that is made from precisely constructed pieces.
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The outputs are the same as the inputs.

When you burn the gas it creates, the 'waste' released by your car gets used to make your next tank of gas. Its like recycling.
You burn gas, CO2 is only one of the products that come out of the tailpipe. Due to incomplete combustion you get CO and lots of other unhealthy junk. Ideally all you'd get out the tailpipe would be water and CO2, but that is ideally.
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This is good on one level, in that if this ends up actually being a viable product we might stop getting raped at the pump.

On another level gas guzzlers will be back in and we'll only exacerbate any kind of climate change that is happening.
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DOH! That is huge...will correct! +rep
To add to your corrections we were using over 7.5B barrels in 2007. So its more like 14,650 square miles. Maryland is only 12,407 square miles including water.

This would still be a huge boon to the world, just using more space then you listed for a 100% conversion. We could easily take a huge drop in oil drilling with this stuff if it works as described.
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You burn gas, CO2 is only one of the products that come out of the tailpipe. Due to incomplete combustion you get CO and lots of other unhealthy junk. Ideally all you'd get out the tailpipe would be water and CO2, but that is ideally.

That's true. It is an oversimplification to only talk about CO2.

Whatever atoms go into making a gasoline molecule needed to enter the bacteria somehow. Ideally that "other unhealthy junk" could be fed straight back into the bacteria tanks. In practice, the bacteria may or may not be able to use every byproduct, and might need to get certain atoms from a source other than car exhaust.
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Wow amazing!
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