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Hello there, at the moment looking at either going with an i3 540 pre overclocked to 4.2 GHz or a i5 2500k pre overclocked to 4.2 GHz, what I really want to know is what is the difference between the two chips *for me*?

My intended use of my system is everyday internet browsing, listening to music on WMP and playing games like world of warcraft, left 4 dead, counter strike source and call of duty black ops on high / ultra settings and maybe a few newer titles but quite happy to play those on lower resolutions and settings.

So for those uses what are the differences as at the moment an i5 for me is a real stretch on the wallet whereas the i3 build I can get a nice case for and 460 GTX 1gb card rather than a 768 mb card that I would have with the i5 build.


here are the two builds:

i3 build
Gladiator Core i3 540 Pre-Built Overclocked Bundle
• Intel® Coreâ„¢ i3-540 Overclocked @ 4.20GHz - Dual Core CPU
• 4GB Mushkin Silverline 1333MHz 9-9-9-24
• MSI H55M-ED55 Micro-ATX Motherboard
• Coolermaster Hyper TX3 CPU Cooler
• Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
• Pre-Assembled & Tested
• 1 Years Warranty

Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced Pure Black Gaming Midi Tower Case
or
NZXT Lexa-S Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black

Corsair TX Series 650W ATX2.2 SLI/Crossfire Compliant Power Supply

1TB Samsung HD103SJ SpinPoint F3 SATA-II 3.5" Hard Drive

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 OC 1024MB

Operating system:Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit OEM
Thanks

i5 build

Gladiator Core i5 2500K P67 Basic Pre-Built Overclocked Bundle
• Intel® 2nd Generation Coreâ„¢ i5-2500K Overclocked @ 4.30GHz - Four Thread CPU
• 4GB Mushkin Silverline 1333MHz 9-9-9-24
• Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 PCI-Express Motherboard
• Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler
• Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
• Pre-Assembled & Tested
• 1 Years Warranty

Xigmatek Asgard Pure Black Edition Gaming Case
Fitted with an extra 120mm Yate Loon Fan on the rear

Corsair TX Series 650W ATX2.2 SLI/Crossfire Compliant Power Supply

1TB Samsung HD103SJ SpinPoint F3 SATA-II 3.5" Hard Drive

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 OC 768MB

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit - OEM

Thanks
post #2 of 43
Build your own system if at all possible.

2500K will destroy the i3 in every way.

1GB VRAM may not give you much of a performance increase over 768MB depending on your display's resolution. Any improvement you may see will certainly not be large enough to make up for the extra power of the 2500K vs the i3.
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Build your own, it will be i3 price at the 2500K performance(not to mention, the pre overclock isn't stable anyway)
    
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The i5 is much more powerful than the i3 that you listed.
    
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Build your own, it will be i3 price at the 2500K performance(not to mention, the pre overclock isn't stable anyway)
Why is the pre-overclock not stable? it is done by professionals, has a one year collect and return warranty and full support, the overclock is absolutely stable, the retailer is aria.co.uk-their forums are see through, there's all the complaints and problems on the customer service forum for all to see, no locking of threads etc as they actually use that as one way to fix the customers problems, you can however do it over the phone or in the case of the bundles get them collected and fixed by them.

There is also feedback and reviews from customers that these overclocks are stable, the most common problem I have seen relating to these bundles are cold start problems that are apparently common in overclocked systems anyway, the problem is simply the PC starts on second boot rather than 1st when cold booting.

Also there is no way to get i5 build for less than the i3 one here in the uk, the i3 bundle is £220 whereas the i5 one is £350, the i3 is actually £20 cheaper than the separate components and the i5 is only £10 more, and when like me you do not want to run the risk with first time overclocking on a new build that means even more.
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For gaming, I think both systems will perform around the same as you'll probably be bottlenecked by the GTX 460.

Something to ponder, however: The i5-2500K will be more "future-proof". Yes, yes, there's no such thing as future-proofing but given we already have apps and games that can take advantage of quad-cores, the i5-2500K should have better longevity. Besides, it's a lot easier just upgrading the GPU than it is replacing CPU/MB/RAM.
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Build your own system if at all possible.

2500K will destroy the i3 in every way.

1GB VRAM may not give you much of a performance increase over 768MB depending on your display's resolution. Any improvement you may see will certainly not be large enough to make up for the extra power of the 2500K vs the i3.
Except the cards aren't only different in terms of pure memory. The memory bandwidth and ROPs are different too, they are for all intents and purposes different cards with similar names.
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For gaming, I think both systems will perform around the same as you'll probably be bottlenecked by the GTX 460.

Something to ponder, however: The i5-2500K will be more "future-proof". Yes, yes, there's no such thing as future-proofing but given we already have apps and games that can take advantage of quad-cores, the i5-2500K should have better longevity. Besides, it's a lot easier just upgrading the GPU than it is replacing CPU/MB/RAM.
Future proofing is not too much of a worry with this machine as planning on building a top gaming rig for about £100 in 12-18 months time at which point this will get downgraded to a htpc and wow only machine for my wife and visiting freinds to use.

I think I'll probably go with the i3 and a 460 gtx 768 mb, maybe the 1024 if I am feeling flush.
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Why is the pre-overclock not stable? it is done by professionals, has a one year collect and return warranty and full support, the overclock is absolutely stable, the retailer is aria.co.uk-their forums are see through, there's all the complaints and problems on the customer service forum for all to see, no locking of threads etc as they actually use that as one way to fix the customers problems, you can however do it over the phone or in the case of the bundles get them collected and fixed by them.

There is also feedback and reviews from customers that these overclocks are stable, the most common problem I have seen relating to these bundles are cold start problems that are apparently common in overclocked systems anyway, the problem is simply the PC starts on second boot rather than 1st when cold booting.

Also there is no way to get i5 build for less than the i3 one here in the uk, the i3 bundle is £220 whereas the i5 one is £350, the i3 is actually £20 cheaper than the separate components and the i5 is only £10 more, and when like me you do not want to run the risk with first time overclocking on a new build that means even more.
They don't have time to prime(lol rhyme). They have some outsourced Philippine overclocking these. Pretty much any 2500K will boot at 4.2GHZ at a voltage, so the company pretty much takes one, stabilizes it at 4.2 and just assume they can all do the same at the same voltage. They then hire the Philippine and tell him to change the multiplier to 42X and the voltage to X amount and he does so, and every i5 will boot. You then boot and after gaming on BFBC2 for 10 minutes your system crashes and you have to mail a $350 system back which will cost you loads.
    
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Honestly, if all that it's used for is gaming and internet usage I would go with the i3. It's cheaper. The i3 will perform similarly to the i5 in gaming, so there is no point wasting money to "have the latest and greatest" technology.
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