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Hey peoples,

Im working on my parts list for building a new sandy bridge PC to replace my current aging Q6600 and 680i and one of the things I found myself asking was if I could suffice with a dual 120 rad, or if I would need a triple.

Im kinda working on a theme build working with this case:
NZXT Phantom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146066

A i7-2600k cpu with either a Koolance cpu-360 or swiftech Apogee XT block

2x Asus Radeon 6870's ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121401) with either Koolance or EK full cover waterblocks.

Now the 2 rads I was looking at were both Black Ice GT stealths. The dual 120 i can fit inside the case (supposedly) with little problem, and I really dont know much on the fitment of the triple.

So which do you believe i can get away with better? Cost really isnt a matter (only about $10 difference) Im more wanting to know if the Dual would be up to the task of keeping the 2 cards and cpu cool, or should I err to the triple?

Thanks everyone!
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You are gonna want a 360 with two gpus and the cpu in the loop.
    
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You'll definitely need a 360, though a 240 and a 120 would be fine if you have limited space.

Do you have room for an RX240 and an RX120 (both from xspc). They are thick rads. If not, look in to the SR1s from HWLabs as they are going to provide better performance than the GTS series.
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Thanks for the part suggestions and comments. Ive come across a few instances where a 360 CAN fit with a bit of modding (i just saw one setup that had a 360 and 2x 120's stuffed in there O.o) So im guessing it is possible. Im planning to order my case hopefully this thursday or friday and I can start taking measurements and seeing what kind of room ill have to mess with.
post #5 of 10
I would agree, 240mm of radiator is simply not enough for the setup you described unless you are going to be using uber speed fans.

I would also recommend that you switch your waterblock to the XSPC Rasa or EK Supreme HF, they are much better then the ones you mentioned.
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If you like that case, than check out my build in my siggy... I used a 360 rad with the white NZXT phantom... forget putting the rad in the case, if you do the 200mil fan has to come out... unless its some jake leg POS h50 or something... and if you use that... is it really WC?
 
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post #7 of 10
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Hmmm, im kinda hesitant to chop too much out to try to install a 360 internally, and really dont want to run it hanging off the back as personal preferance.
Do you think that a 240 and a 120 would be up to the task over a single 360? If so, any particular models that would be best to look at? The RX240 and 120 were mentioned earlier, thoughts on those?

@Charlie: Thanks for the suggestions, I took a look at both of the blocks and the Rasa might be a strong contender for me to get, but really didnt care too much for the looks of the EK (style over performance? Shame on me lol).

@Soggy: Nice build! Hope ya dont mind me utilizing a page or two from your book. ^^

Just a note (in jest I swear lol) Lets not be TOO hard on the H50s, I have a modified one on my oc'd quadcore and it stays pretty cool ^^ LoL.
post #8 of 10
can you mod your case and use 2x240?! do not forget to make it push/pull.. this will increase your cooling ability..
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can you mod your case and use 2x240?! do not forget to make it push/pull.. this will increase your cooling ability..
This depends how much space he has and how quiet he wants his system to be. A push/pull setup leads to temperatures being 2 degrees cooler or so, however if the system is noisy it kind of defeats the object of getting water cooling in the first place.

You are going to need at least a triple radiator for that setup. Depending how loud you want it to be, an RX360 performs well with lower speed fans however if noise isn't an issue, a Black Ice Stealth GT for example will perform better at medium-to-high fan speeds.



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post #10 of 10
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Thanks for all the input everyone. Its been a lot of reading, head scratching (and general cursing lol) and some ideas / "I wonder if's..."

Case and one of the video cards for the build (Asus 6870) has been ordered and I should receive it saturday at which time I can get a hands on look at what kind of space there is (vs just pics) and get an idea as to what my options are.

Ill be sure to add more info / questions here and ultimately a build thread once I have everything in (gonna be a lot of over time over the next couple months i can feel it lol)
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