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crashed at 6:26am
increased offset to +0.170
turned on pwm thermal report override
blend stable 1 hr

vcore 1.452v/149.556w/102a max temps 70/81/81/78
Edited by MicahMicahMicah - 2/19/11 at 4:49am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MicahMicahMicah;12443962 
crashed at 6:26am
increased offset to +0.170
turned on pwm thermal report override
blend stable 1 hr

vcore 1.452v/149.556w/102a max temps 70/81/81/78

What are your BSOD's ? 124 or 101 ?

Seems like you have alot going on there with 4x4GB sticks. Much harder to get stable, heck, I'm still trying to get dialed in with 2x4GB sticks.

I had a couple of thoughts about your OC. One, I'm not sure about using the GreenPower utility, does it make any changes to voltages/settings while you are running ? I'm using the Toverclocker util to get board voltages only and making all changes in BIoS only. You can get the CPU wattage draw from RealTemp 3.67 (click on the timer, it will cycle from timer to VID to Wattage)

That vcore is just massively high it seems. What is your VCCIO ? Maybe post your template again. I've got the same batch as you and I've got 4.7GHz stable with 1.35V in BIOS, 1.41 on load. 48 is tougher, but I'm a voltage miser. ;-)
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4.7 @ 1.416 I wanna get this voltage down

Gonna go drop another 0.010 volt off my offset
see what happens
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ugotd8;12446720 
What are your BSOD's ? 124 or 101 ?

Seems like you have alot going on there with 4x4GB sticks. Much harder to get stable, heck, I'm still trying to get dialed in with 2x4GB sticks.

I had a couple of thoughts about your OC. One, I'm not sure about using the GreenPower utility, does it make any changes to voltages/settings while you are running ? I'm using the Toverclocker util to get board voltages only and making all changes in BIoS only. You can get the CPU wattage draw from RealTemp 3.67 (click on the timer, it will cycle from timer to VID to Wattage)

That vcore is just massively high it seems. What is your VCCIO ? Maybe post your template again. I've got the same batch as you and I've got 4.7GHz stable with 1.35V in BIOS, 1.41 on load. 48 is tougher, but I'm a voltage miser. ;-)

Crap, I hope that Green Power Utility was not changing things. I will stop using it and switch to Toverclocker to check the voltages.

CPU Configuration
Hyper-Threading: enabled
Active Processor Cores: all
Limit CPUID Maximum:disabled
Execute Disable Bit:enabled
Hardware Prefetcher:enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch:enabled
Intel Virtualization Technology:enabled
Power Technology:energy efficient

O.N.E.
==========Manual CPU System=============
Fixed CPU Ratio:
CPU Ratio:34
CPU Base Clock(1/100 MHz):10000
CPU Core Current Max (Amp):160
Power Limit 1 Value (Watt):150
Power Limit 2 Switch:enabled
Power Limit 2 Value (Watt):160
Internal PLL Voltage Override:enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology:enabled
Turbo Mode:enabled
1 Core Ratio Limit:47
2 Core Ratio Limit:47
3 Core Ratio Limit:47
4 Core Ratio Limit:47
CPU C1E:

==========Manual Memory System=============
DRAM Multiplier:16
DRAM Timing Control:XMP Profile 1
DRAM Command Rate:2T
CAS Latency (tCL):9
Row Precharge Time (tRP):9
RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD):9
RAS Active Time (tRAS):24
Write Recovery Time (tWR):12
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC):110
Write to Read Delay (tWTR):6
Active to Active Delay (tRRD):5
Read CAS Precharge (tRTP):6
Four Active Window (tFAW):50

==========Manual PWM Phase System=============
CPU Request Vcore:1.255V
CPU Vcore Mode:offset mode
CPU Vcore Offset:+0.170V
CPU Vcore Fixed:1.250V
Phase Control:CPU Power State
PWM Work Frequency:auto
PWM I-OUT Override:disabled
PWM Thermal report Override:enabled
CPU VCore LoadLine:enabled

==========Manual Voltage System=============
CPU PLL:1.700v
DRAM Voltage:1.500v
Vcc SA:default(0.93v)
PCH Voltage:default(1.050v)
Vcc IO:default (1.050v)

Forgive my ignorance, but where in the BSOD can I find the 101 or 124?
Edited by MicahMicahMicah - 2/19/11 at 1:03pm
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got the voltage down to 1.404v under load, stable, seems like my chip hits a small voltage wall at 4.8 as to be stable at 4.8 requires 1.44v
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MicahMicahMicah;12447536 
Crap, I hope that Green Power Utility was not changing things. I will stop using it and switch to Toverclocker to check the voltages.

CPU Configuration
Hyper-Threading: enabled
Active Processor Cores: all
Limit CPUID Maximum:disabled
Execute Disable Bit:enabled
Hardware Prefetcher:enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch:enabled
Intel Virtualization Technology:enabled
Power Technology:energy efficient

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Fixed CPU Ratio:
CPU Ratio:34
CPU Base Clock(1/100 MHz):10000
CPU Core Current Max (Amp):160
Power Limit 1 Value (Watt):150
Power Limit 2 Switch:enabled
Power Limit 2 Value (Watt):160
Internal PLL Voltage Override:enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology:enabled
Turbo Mode:enabled
1 Core Ratio Limit:47
2 Core Ratio Limit:47
3 Core Ratio Limit:47
4 Core Ratio Limit:47
CPU C1E:

==========Manual Memory System=============
DRAM Multiplier:16
DRAM Timing Control:XMP Profile 1
DRAM Command Rate:2T
CAS Latency (tCL):9
Row Precharge Time (tRP):9
RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD):9
RAS Active Time (tRAS):24
Write Recovery Time (tWR):12
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC):110
Write to Read Delay (tWTR):6
Active to Active Delay (tRRD):5
Read CAS Precharge (tRTP):6
Four Active Window (tFAW):50

==========Manual PWM Phase System=============
CPU Request Vcore:1.255V
CPU Vcore Mode:offset mode
CPU Vcore Offset:+0.170V
CPU Vcore Fixed:1.250V
Phase Control:CPU Power State
PWM Work Frequency:auto
PWM I-OUT Override:disabled
PWM Thermal report Override:enabled
CPU VCore LoadLine:enabled

==========Manual Voltage System=============
CPU PLL:1.700v
DRAM Voltage:1.500v
Vcc SA:default(0.93v)
PCH Voltage:default(1.050v)
Vcc IO:default (1.050v)

Forgive my ignorance, but where in the BSOD can I find the 101 or 124?

You'll see the code at the bottom of the blue screen, something like 0x0000000124 or 0x00000000101

Judging from what my board does, your RAM is being undervolted. Probably 1.464 with a bios setting of 1.500. I set mine to 1.55 and get 1.524 in Toverclocker. Assuming your RAM is rated at 1.5V, try increasing that.

Also, you don't need Internal PLL Override enabled at 46 or 47 (I don't need that enabled until I try to boot at 49x). Disable that unless you can't boot into windows without it.

So, YMMV, but:

Disable Internal PLL override
Increase RAM voltage to 1.55
Lower vcore
Enjoy

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I will give your settings a shot next. But I just realized the rear fan (stock thermaltake 120) was pointing in, reversed it. Also figured I should elevate it a little bit. Put it up on two spare shelves, increasing the distance from the bottom of the case from .6" to 1.1".

Prime 95 small FFT's running with the same settings as last night.
(started at 16:30 - stopped at 18:02)
Quote:
Originally Posted by previously 
crashed at 6:26am
increased offset to +0.170
turned on pwm thermal report override
blend stable 1 hr

vcore 1.452v/149.556w/102a max temps 70/81/81/78

Now vcore is the same but sometimes dips to 1.440, can't see watts or amps, but I'd guess they're the same too. What I can see is temps are down. 67/76/77/74.



Green Power Utility is no longer running, per advice. Have Toverclocker open to H/W Monitor page.
============= Current===== Min=======Max
CPU Vcore=:==== 1.452 ===== 0.876 ==== 1.500
DRAM Voltage:== 1.464 ===== 1.452 ==== 1.464
+12V: ======= 12.148 ===== 12.148 === 12.199
+5V: ======== 5.040 ====== 5.040 ===== 5.083
Vcc SA:======= 0.936 ===== 0.936 ===== 0.936
PCH Voltage: === 1.068 ===== 1.068 ===== 1.068
Vcc IO: ======= 1.104 ===== 1.080 ===== 1.104

Looks like you were right about the ram.

Kaze Master shows fan rpms between 2070-2100rpm. Air Temps monitored on side of cpu cooler base/dimm2/gpu fins/top of power supply are 24/26.5/27.1/19.2 respectively. Needed to turn the fans down a bit for the noise.
Edited by MicahMicahMicah - 2/19/11 at 3:03pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ugotd8;12448127 
You'll see the code at the bottom of the blue screen, something like 0x0000000124 or 0x00000000101

Judging from what my board does, your RAM is being undervolted. Probably 1.464 with a bios setting of 1.500. I set mine to 1.55 and get 1.524 in Toverclocker. Assuming your RAM is rated at 1.5V, try increasing that.

Also, you don't need Internal PLL Override enabled at 46 or 47 (I don't need that enabled until I try to boot at 49x). Disable that unless you can't boot into windows without it.

So, YMMV, but:

Disable Internal PLL override
Increase RAM voltage to 1.55
Lower vcore
Enjoy

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Thanks!

disabled Internal PLL override
Increased RAM voltage to 1.55
Raised offset to +0.140v 4.7ghz
Prime95 Small FFT's started 00:45
max temps on cores 59/68/67/68
crashed at 01:21 with 124
offset to +0.150v - froze on "Starting Windows"
offset to +0.130v - froze on "Starting Windows"
offset to +0.120v - froze on "Starting Windows"
changed to fixed mode, disabled loadline, vcore set to 1.400v
still frozen on Starting Windows
back to offset mode, enabled loadline,
offset to +0.140v -4.5ghz
small fft's stable for 15 minutes, 1.416v vcore showing, max core temps 57/66/66/66
offset to +0.120 - 4.7ghz enabled internal pll voltage override
Prime 95 Small FFT's started 02:36 - crash 4 minutes later with 124
offset to +0.100 - 4.7ghz disabled internal pll voltage override -
small fft's crash after 5 seconds bsod 124
offset to +0.100 - 4.7ghz enabled internal pll voltage override -
small fft's crash after 5 seconds bsod 124
cpu pll 1.750v offset to +0.150 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override enabled
small fft's crash instantly bsod 124
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.150 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override enabled
small fft's crash instantly bsod 124
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.150 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override disabled
small fft's crash instantly bsod 124
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.170 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override disabled
hung on starting windows
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.170 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override enabled
small fft's crash after 2 seconds bsod 124
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.180 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override enabled
small fft's crash after 20 seconds bsod 01E (raise vcore?)
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.190 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override enabled
small fft's crash after 40 seconds bsod 124 cpu temps high 60's
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.190 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override disabled
small fft's crash after 30 seconds bsod 124
cpu pll 1.700v offset to +0.200 -4.9ghz internal pll voltage override enabled
cpu request 1.255 in bios
small fft's start 03:23
core voltage showing 1.476 for 10 seconds, then crash bsod 101 (increase vcore?)
figuring this is too far for me and my hardware, backing off
offset to +0.100 -4.6ghz internal pll voltage disabled
small ffts crash 40 seconds, bsod 124
offset +0.080 - 4.6ghz
small ffts crash 20 seconds, bsod 124
offset +0.060 - 4.6ghz
small ffts crash 10 seconds, bsod 124
offset +0.040 - 4.6ghz
small ffts crash instant, bsod 124
offset +0.120 - 4.6ghz
small ffts 1 hr stable max core temps 59/68/68/68
============= Current===== Min=======Max
CPU Vcore=:==== 1.404 ===== 0.924 ==== 1.404
DRAM Voltage:== 1.524 ===== 1.524 ==== 1.524
+12V: ======= 12.148 ===== 12.148 === 12.199
+5V: ======== 5.061 ====== 5.040 ===== 5.061
Vcc SA:======= 0.936 ===== 0.936 ===== 0.936
PCH Voltage: === 1.068 ===== 1.068 ===== 1.068
Vcc IO: ======= 1.104 ===== 1.080 ===== 1.104
blend crash after 5 mins bsod 124
offset +0.130 - 4.6ghz
blend start 04:54 crash 05:35
offset +0.140 -4.6ghz
blend start 1 hr 13 min stable max core temps 62/72/71/69 103.2W
============= Current===== Min=======Max
CPU Vcore=:==== 1.416 ===== 0.852 ==== 1.440
(rest is same)
Intel Burn Test on Maximum Times to run 5, went to sleep, woke up and the box was still up, turned on monitor to find IBT completed - yay!
Calling that one good - saving as profile 1 (wish I could rename it to 4.6)
offset +0.160 - 4.7ghz - hung on starting windows
vcc io changed from default 1.050 to 1.075v/1.100v/1.037v/1.025v all hung on starting windows
vcc io changed back to default 1.050
offset +0.170 4.7ghz - hung on starting windows
offset +0.180 4.7ghz - hung on starting windows
enabled cpu pll voltage override - got into windows
small fft's 1 hour stable max temp on cores 70/81/82/78 108W
kaze master shows 28.9 cpu/ 30.3 dimm2/30 gpu exhaust/22 top of PSU
blend stable 1hr 22 minutes
============= Current===== Min=======Max
CPU Vcore=:==== 1.452 ===== 0.888 ==== 1.476
offset +0.160 4.7ghz cpu pll voltage override enabled
small fft's stable 1 hr 5 min
blend crash 20 minutes later
offset +0.170 4.7ghz
blend start 19:12 crash 20:27 max temp on cores 68/79/79/75 107W
============= Current===== Min=======Max
CPU Vcore=:==== 1.452 ===== 0.888 ==== 1.464
offset +0.180 4.7ghz cpu pll voltage override enabled
blend start 20:32 crash 21:20 bsod 124
Going back to profile 1
Edited by MicahMicahMicah - 2/20/11 at 6:31pm
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Whee 4.7 @ 1.4 is like 18hr folding stable, too bad about my voltage wall at 4.8 though...
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it seems like people with asus mobos need less vcore.. just a theory lol

i havent really seen any tp67xe's doing 5ghz at 1.4v-1.45v (2600k w/ HT)

could be just luck/coincidence though
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