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Hey folks of OCN



I want to ask you all a question, inb4 fail.

I'll recive my paycheck soon , and i will be buying some new WC'ing parts.
Now I want to be 100% sure that I will have ALL the parts that are needed, so that I won't realise I miss things during assembly.


The current working setup has everything i need to cool my CPU (Heatkiller 3.0, mcp655, magicool 240 slim and 3/8 barbs with 3/8 hoses).
I will be adding a new EK 6870 Nickel/Plexi GPU block, MCR320 rad, Masterkleer 7/16 Uv Blue (6,6meters, 2 boxes) hoses, Bitspower 1/4" thread 1/2" barbs and a IanDH killcoil.

My questions:
- Does the EK Nickel plated 6870 block contain EVERYTHING i need, TIM, thermal pads, screws and 2 1/4" plugs to cover the 2 remaining 1/4" holes.

- Does the Swiftech MCR320 have all the accesoires to mount it to a case with 2 1/4" barbs?


Thanks in advance!

P.s: the magicool 240 will be a backup radiator somewhere on a shelf for when it's needed, only going to use the mcr320
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uh dude you might wanna get better actual components before blowing money on water cooling
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Originally Posted by flashbulb View Post
water cooling wouldn't improve his performance nearly as much as other parts for the same cash
Will do soon, the 6870 will be CFX'ed sometime soon, and the HK 3.0 can be mounted on the Bulldozer I will buy when it comes out.


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Whats wrong with his components? Depending on what he uses it for that rig my be more than adequate, I am sure it tears through games, quad processor at a decent speed, 6870, not sure how much ram
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troll?

Hm, i don't think he actually stated performance gains as a reason to go Watercooling.

Might just be he wants more adequate cooling for his system. Sure, it may be a bit dated but so's mine, and both systems are still more than sufficient (and then some) to game on.


And this^ I mostly play Black Ops and MW2, and i am in the frame limiter the entire time.

The thing is that I am getting more than sick of the noise my pc produces, and WC'ing is the perfect solution.

Thus I am watercooling it


P.s; TheLastPriest, i have 4x1gb's of those memory sticks
Edited by ericie - 1/19/11 at 5:30am
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And this^ I mostly play Black Ops and MW2, and i am in the frame limiter the entire time.

The thing is that I am getting more than sick of the noise my pc produces, and WC'ing is the perfect solution.

Thus I am watercooling it
Two things really

1. watercooling isn't necessarily quieter. remember you'll still be using fans on the radiators to cool them. And if you decide you want to push it hard, you'll need at least a 240mm rad with 2 fans, maybe even more. And the more components you cool, the bigger/more rads you'll need.

My loop is actually rather noisy, noiser than air thats for sure, but looks great and gives me the performance i want.

2. Guess you've not thought that Black ops is just unoptimized?


I don't know what components you're watercooling, but i'm going to assume CPU, and really you won't see much improvement with it overclocked further as it's still more then enough to manage it. If anything your problem is GPU related, but i run the same card as you and get satisfactory results (In MW2 anyway, dislike Black Ops)

edit-

Sorry, misread, thought you actually HAD a problem running these games xD I was leik "wth? u gots a 20 inch screen, i run 22 and still it works fine!"
Edited by Thingamajig - 1/19/11 at 5:42am
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Two things really

1. watercooling isn't necessarily quieter. remember you'll still be using fans on the radiators to cool them. And if you decide you want to push it hard, you'll need at least a 240mm rad with 2 fans, maybe even more. And the more components you cool, the bigger/more rads you'll need.

My loop is actually rather noisy, noiser than air thats for sure, but looks great and gives me the performance i want.

2. Guess you've not thought that Black ops is just unoptimized?


I don't know what components you're watercooling, but i'm going to assume CPU, and really you won't see much improvement with it overclocked further as it's still more then enough to manage it.
As far as i've used it today, it is A LOT quieter than the air cooling i had before.
Have you ever heard the noise that 1 6870 can produce @ 80% fanspeed?
It's not funny, seriously...
(fan runs at high speed since i don't want my card to get hot, curve is set @ 55degrees -> 100% fan speed)

The CPU allready is watercooled, i'm just adding the GPU and replacing the 3 year old hoses, rad and barbs.

And since I will only overclock as far as i can go without raising the voltage of my components, they shouldn't get too hot, and thus that 3x12cm mcr320 (which works well with low rpm fans) will likely cool fine
Edited by ericie - 1/19/11 at 6:03am
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edit-

Sorry, misread, thought you actually HAD a problem running these games xD I was leik "wth? u gots a 20 inch screen, i run 22 and still it works fine!"
Yeah, those games run in the frame limiter the entire time, and hardly go below the 88fps during immense battles

226BW is 22inch btw
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EK GPU blocks don't come with TIM... just a heads up.
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As far as i've used it today, it is A LOT quieter than the air cooling i had before.
Have you ever heard the noise that 1 6870 can produce @ 80% fanspeed?
It's not funny, seriously...
(fan runs at high speed since i don't want my card to get hot, curve is set @ 55degrees -> 100% fan speed)

The CPU allready is watercooled, i'm just adding the GPU and replacing the 3 year old hoses, rad and barbs.
Yeah, i run the 6870 myself and the noise it makes is immense when that fan gets going. Fortunately, that isn't often - but then i have left the fan settings at default.

In terms of W/C noise, I suppose it depends on how you have your loop set out. Will the GPU share a loop with the CPU? cos that'll drastically effect temps, especially if you don't have enough rads/fans to shift all that heat.

My system loop simply cools my CPU, it consists of two 240mm radiators mounted internally. I did want to watercool the GPU but i figured as i upgrade my graphics regularly, it wouldn't be cost effective having to buy a full GPU block with each purchase. This might be worth considering.

Quote:
226BW is 22inch btw
Why yes, it is xD I googled it and all i read was "20 inch" but that was for the 206BW, lmao.
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EK GPU blocks don't come with TIM... just a heads up.
Thought so , fortunately I have some AS5 left over.
EK Blocks do come with Thermal pads and screws?


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Yeah, i run the 6870 myself and the noise it makes is immense when that fan gets going. Fortunately, that isn't often - but then i have left the fan settings at default.

In terms of W/C noise, I suppose it depends on how you have your loop set out. Will the GPU share a loop with the CPU? cos that'll drastically effect temps, especially if you don't have enough rads/fans to shift all that heat.

My system loop simply cools my CPU, it consists of two 240mm radiators mounted internally. I did want to watercool the GPU but i figured as i upgrade my graphics regularly, it wouldn't be cost effective having to buy a full GPU block with each purchase. This might be worth considering.
The loop will contain the CPU>GPU>360 rad, with in the winter fans at low speed, and in summer the fans at adequate speed (to cool enough for the temps I aim to get).
As I don't wan the temps to be higher @ load than 55 degrees on the GPU, and 50 on the CPU that should be pretty reasonable with +- 22 degrees ambient.

.. right?
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to the topic "loudness".. it depends very strong from four things.. the pump (try to see one in action b4 buying or read many tests), the fans.. many fans are crap and even loud when at 600rpm. do not think that it depends from the price..a 5$ cooler can be better than a 10$ cooler.. and third the radiator.. if you manage to get a passive radi you will get an ultra silent rig if you are carefull with the choice of the pump and psu..
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EK Blocks do come with Thermal pads and screws?

The loop will contain the CPU>GPU>360 rad, with in the winter fans at low speed, and in summer the fans at adequate speed (to cool enough for the temps I aim to get).
As I don't wan the temps to be higher @ load than 55 degrees on the GPU, and 50 on the CPU that should be pretty reasonable with +- 22 degrees ambient.

.. right?
I received my EK 580 block yesterday and I can confirm it comes with everything you need except the TIM. It comes with the thermal pads, screws and mounting hardware as well as instructions.

It does not matter what order you set up your loop in, just ensure the reservoir is higher up in the case than the pump or you will burn it out.

You can set the fan speeds to what you want with a fan controller. Want the temperatures to go down? Turn them up. If they're at an acceptable temperature then turn the fans down until you reach your desired temperature/noise combination.

In my opinion, it's worth sacrificing a few degrees to have a quiet system. For example, if at full fan speed your CPU temperature at load is 50C and when turning the fans down to a quiet level the CPU temperature at load is 53C, it's a worthwhile sacrifice since this temperature is by no means high and you have a quiet PC to-boot.
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