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I'm glad to see AMD has found themselves a market that they can dominate. It seems like all the major semiconductors are doing quite well in various markets.
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Hopefully AMD can keep up with the times, right now this solution goes head to head with Intel's Atoms in terms of power draw, but boasts more features. So it gives people more options to work with.

Right now I think the most exciting fact is just that a big name made something so power efficient with so many features and a good speed to it.
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I believe he said it goes head to head with the Atom in power consumption? and that's about it.
Yes, I stand corrected.
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The N550 still has better CPU then it and the Oaktrail is coming soon, or maybe not... don't know with this Intel nVidia deal.
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How can you say that this goes head to head with Atom?

I would say that it has significantly more features and Atom is not competing in these areas. This has an integrated DX-11 GPU.

There are a lot of embedded applications where this type of rich visual experience is critical (medical imaging, set top box, digital signage, thin client, gaming devices, etc.) Those are places where atom can't even compete.

AMD is doing it in a single APU that can run in a fanless enclosure. But I am biased.
I could be baised as well

Though if you read more carefully (and it may be my fault, as I could have possibly phrased it better) but I'm speaking on only terms of Power Draw and Heat Output.

Atom has been successful because it's cheap to make, uses little to no power, and does not put out a lot of heat.

With AMD offering a product with similar characteristics in that department; a long with more features and greater abilities in terms of performance, you do have a huge success on your hands.
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I would say the Atom and this are not quite in the same market. They do overlap but not entirely. Atom is better for lower power consumption and cost. This APU is a slight step up in power and cost but the performance gain is quite clear.

For anything that is not mobile and requires any graphics, this APU owns the market.
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I would say the Atom and this are not quite in the same market. They do overlap but not entirely. Atom is better for lower power consumption and cost. This APU is a slight step up in power and cost but the performance gain is quite clear.

For anything that is not mobile and requires any graphics, this APU owns the market.
Guys, read what he says, the N550 is still better CPU, the h264 decoding of this is better, but thats all. You guys seem to ignore Oaktrail which is most likely to be released this Q1 or Q2.
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I think the bigger impact is that they will drive competitors to improve GPU performance... and help acclerate the CPU/GPU integration by all.
Handheld computers are extremely popular, but then again, so is using your hand to do other things..

I think CPU/GPU market will florish for some time still, till people come to a computer store and say they want to game, then we laugh and say, yeah, don't waste your money on a small computer... (game over)

Not just gaming, but video encoding is becoming very popular with computers!

Considering internet may go to the pay/MB or GB, the popularity of these little computers may fall out completely!

It's indicative to comparing a PS3 against a Wii, come on, where is your logic people?
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I would say the Atom and this are not quite in the same market. They do overlap but not entirely. Atom is better for lower power consumption and cost. This APU is a slight step up in power and cost but the performance gain is quite clear.

For anything that is not mobile and requires any graphics, this APU owns the market.

I care to disagree Duckie; AMD's Brazos system drew 30w of power with an SSD while Intel's Atom system drew 29w of power with the same SSD.

Power draw wise, they're both right on the mark with one another. And in Anandtech's testing (though it wasn't very great because of data loss and some mistakes being made) they found that the AMD Brazos chip was letting off less heat than the Intel Atom.

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Guys, read what he says, the N550 is still better CPU, the h264 decoding of this is better, but thats all. You guys seem to ignore Oaktrail which is most likely to be released this Q1 or Q2.
On unrelased, unoptimized systems; you cannot make any performance judgements so hastily. Though preliminary testing proves otherwise.

In what way is the N550 a better CPU though?

Though, Anandtech seems to have found differently than what you claim. Here as well.
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Guys, read what he says, the N550 is still better CPU, the h264 decoding of this is better, but thats all. You guys seem to ignore Oaktrail which is most likely to be released this Q1 or Q2.
N550 = dual-core at 1.5GHz.
D510 = dual-core at 1.66GHz

Brazos beats them both.



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I care to disagree Duckie; AMD's Brazos system drew 30w of power with an SSD while Intel's Atom system drew 29w of power with the same SSD.

Power draw wise, they're both right on the mark with one another. And in Anandtech's testing (though it wasn't very great because of data loss and some mistakes being made) they found that the AMD Brazos chip was letting off less heat than the Intel Atom.
Which chipset was the Atom platform using?

It irks me to no end that Intel could easily make the Atom better..... They just need to pair it with a better and more efficent chipset.
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Which chipset was the Atom platform using?

It irks me to no end that Intel could easily make the Atom better..... They just need to pair it with a better and more efficent chipset.
NM10

Yes, including the 945GSE Chipset with Atom in 2008 was a HUGE mistake.

Though currently, the chips/platforms are not the biggest power draw; but the LCD's are. LED Backlighting helps this somewhat, but the LCD Market is stagnant.
Big players like Samsung and LG just do not innovate at the rate other industries do.
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