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Hello all. I've just gotten into the whole overclocking game. SO I had a few questions as far as watercooling goes. I've have always been VERY skeptical of water inside of a computer.

1. How much cooler does a water cooler get than an aftermarket heatsink cooling unit?

2. How safe (for me and for the computer) is using a watercooler?

3. Is it really worth giving up on normal cooling methods?

4. Is the setup and maintenance very time consuming?
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1: My PhenomII is around 10c cooler with this cheap end waterblock than it was with a Xigmatek s1283 at the same speed. With a better waterblock, I could take maybe another 3 or 4 c off those temps.

2: If you put it together well, then it's entirely safe. Your only risk point is during leak testing.

3: It depends how important pushing things to the limit is to you. Air is plenty up to 3.8 to 4Ghz depending on your cooler and case airflow.

4: Setup is time consuming, maintenance is not (until the time comes to do a full strip down).
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1: My PhenomII is around 10c cooler with this cheap end waterblock than it was with a Xigmatek s1283 at the same speed. With a better waterblock, I could take maybe another 3 or 4 c off those temps.

2: If you put it together well, then it's entirely safe. Your only risk point is during leak testing.

3: It depends how important pushing things to the limit is to you. Air is plenty up to 3.8 to 4Ghz depending on your cooler and case airflow.

4: Setup is time consuming, maintenance is not (until the time comes to do a full strip down).
With a 10c cooler system I could probably get my system to about 4. I am at 3.69 now. Hmmmm. I might have to do the research and see if it's a worth while investment. Would be nice to get a few more horses out of my processor.

EDIT: how much more power on average do you think I would need to run a water cooler?
Edited by CP2 - 1/19/11 at 8:40am
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I agree with above

will add

Do lots of research, more the better, and ask lots of questions if you cant find them, like this thread.

1. yes it will be cooler, will you be able to OC like crazy because of it, who knows, it is more depending on your CPU than how cooled you can get the CPU, it just helps to keep it cooler than any other form of cooling other than extreme cooling.
I have water cooled a few CPUs and couldn't get them to OC worth a darn and basically was a waste to have all the water cooling.

2.I have never had a leak, if you take your time and do it right you will be fine.... remember this isn't something you cut corners on, if you cant afford it 100%, stop there and wait tell you have the money saved up to do it right.

3. 2 reasons to do water cooling, not as loud as air cooled systems. The other is able to reach higher clocks at lower temps.
If you don't plan to OC, you could run a water cool system without fans and just use a passive air method to cool you radiators and have a very silent system

4. TAKE YOUR TIME setting it up, I cant stress that enough, check check and check and leak test twice. after the 1st week you might need to add some water but once it is running you will be good for a long while before you need to touch it again.
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With a 10c cooler system I could probably get my system to about 4. I am at 3.69 now. Hmmmm. I might have to do the research and see if it's a worth while investment. Would be nice to get a few more horses out of my processor.

EDIT: how much more power on average do you think I would need to run a water cooler?
how much more power? You will need to power a pump. depending on the pump you go with determines that.
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post #7 of 15
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All of this seems interesting. I might wait a bit. I'm not in serious need of a system boost/upgrade, but it is something that I'll be interested as a newly found hobby...min/maxing a computer.
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Water cooling is a pretty big time and money investment and in my honest opinion you are better off spending the money on components that perform better overall. I think water cooling should really be reserved for higher end components to go beyond whats available now.
I also understand though that you are not likely to spend 4k on components and put them under water as a first timer so you would have to start at some point when there isn't as much to risk.
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Don't forget.....
It is also fun.
Well at least "I" had a lot of fun learning about and building a water cooled system.
When you change systems later you can use all of the parts except for the water block.
So the cost is not too bad.
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Don't forget.....
It is also fun.
Well at least "I" had a lot of fun learning about and building a water cooled system.
When you change systems later you can use all of the parts except for the water block.
So the cost is not too bad.
True this ... it is a blast that is the number one reason I do it, I do it for a hobby not a job
Although if I could make money doing it I would, and I have built system for people but really didn't make money on it.

And ya most the time you can sell your old blocks for cheap and then have to buy new ones, everything else you can keep though.
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