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And see, this seems like it would be fun to do. I just don't want to have it go bad and then have to buy computer parts all over again ya know. So yes this would have to be a delicate operation to an extent. This seems like something I might do with my tax money this year lol. I have so many things I want to spend my tax money on. And they all do with this computer. I built it 2 weeks ago. It's nice, but could be a little better. A little more efficient.
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1. How much cooler does a water cooler get than an aftermarket heatsink cooling unit?

I have 2 PCs both using the same model cpu and mobo. 1 pc is using an aftermarket heatsink with stock clock settings(@3ghz) and the other is a custom watercooling build(oc'd @3.7ghz) . I've seen cpu temps hit 62C on aftermarket heatsink on stock clock settings underload. The other pc is oc'd @3.7ghz and never gets over 52C underload. As for my vid card, underload it used to hit 85C went it was cooled by fan, but after watercooling it I never go past 43C underload.

2. How safe (for me and for the computer) is using a watercooler?
With watercooling there is always a risk. But if you're careful and plan ahead taking into account the worst case scenarios, you can minimize the risk to almost 0.

3. Is it really worth giving up on normal cooling methods?
To me, I used to use aftermarket air, but after going under water, I could never go back. And yes, I've had leaks, but all were from user error. But, that's how I learned to be better at watercooling. And, I found my leaks when my pc wasn't fully powered, only the pump had power(leak testing). So, is it worth getting into? It all depends if you think the benefits are worth it and fun. To me it's a hobby, not a job and it does take some time getting used to.

4. Is the setup and maintenance very time consuming? When I first started watercooling a year and half ago, it was very time consuming and scary, but exciting. But, I had no leaks on my first build. I don't know how many time's I've redone my loop, I totally lost count lol. Maintenance isn't too bad if you plan ahead, but if you redo a loop it does take some time. So overall, if you really want to try it I think you should go for it. But, yes there is always a risk and it could be minimal if you research and plan ahead.
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1. How much cooler does a water cooler get than an aftermarket heatsink cooling unit?

I have 2 PCs both using the same model cpu and mobo. 1 pc is using an aftermarket heatsink with stock clock settings(@3ghz) and the other is a custom watercooling build(oc'd @3.7ghz) . I've seen cpu temps hit 62C on aftermarket heatsink on stock clock settings underload. The other pc is oc'd @3.7ghz and never gets over 52C underload. As for my vid card, underload it used to hit 85C went it was cooled by fan, but after watercooling it I never go past 43C underload.

2. How safe (for me and for the computer) is using a watercooler?
With watercooling there is always a risk. But if you're careful and plan ahead taking into account the worst case scenarios, you can minimize the risk to almost 0.

3. Is it really worth giving up on normal cooling methods?
To me, I used to use aftermarket air, but after going under water, I could never go back. And yes, I've had leaks, but all were from user error. But, that's how I learned to be better at watercooling. And, I found my leaks when my pc wasn't fully powered, only the pump had power(leak testing). So, is it worth getting into? It all depends if you think the benefits are worth it and fun. To me it's a hobby, not a job and it does take some time getting used to.

4. Is the setup and maintenance very time consuming? When I first started watercooling a year and half ago, it was very time consuming and scary, but exciting. But, I had no leaks on my first build. I don't know how many time's I've redone my loop, I totally lost count lol. Maintenance isn't too bad if you plan ahead, but if you redo a loop it does take some time. So overall, if you really want to try it I think you should go for it. But, yes there is always a risk and it could be minimal if you research and plan ahead.
When you say "underload" what exactly do you mean? Like the normal max settings gaming load or under a stress test load? Sorry, Im not familiar with the lingo. As of now, playing my games on a high setting gets my CPU to a max of 45, but it generally stays at about 41 or 42c. So that isn't bad for an OC of 3.69 coming from 3.0 ghz right?

Overall this does seem like a cool project. I'm a tinkerer. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you watercooling project cost you? Don't answer if you don't want to. I'll understand.
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When you say "underload" what exactly do you mean? Like the normal max settings gaming load or under a stress test load? Sorry, Im not familiar with the lingo. As of now, playing my games on a high setting gets my CPU to a max of 45, but it generally stays at about 41 or 42c. So that isn't bad for an OC of 3.69 coming from 3.0 ghz right?

Overall this does seem like a cool project. I'm a tinkerer. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you watercooling project cost you? Don't answer if you don't want to. I'll understand.
Underload is stress testing using prime95, etc. No games will come close to pushing the limits of your cpu and gpu like stress tests.

Hmm, I prolly spent well over $400, but my build was overtime and upgrading along the way. I first started out with the corsair h50(closed-loop), then thermaltake 850i kit, and then finally I moved to custom watercooling because I wanted better temps and OC running 24/7.

Right now, though, you can get a really good kit like the XSPC Rasa WaterCooling Kit for $100+. It's getting great reviews and allows you to upgrade along the way. Also, it has all the parts you need to help you get familiar with them and watercooling. But, it doesn't come with coolant or gpu waterblocks. Most people use distilled water + some biocide. If they had this kit when I first started, I would've gotten it first.

If you decide to give it a try, let us know here and we'll help you along the way.
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Underload is stress testing using prime95, etc. No games will come close to pushing the limits of your cpu and gpu like stress tests.

Hmm, I prolly spent well over $400, but my build was overtime and upgrading along the way. I first started out with the corsair h50(closed-loop), then thermaltake 850i kit, and then finally I moved to custom watercooling because I wanted better temps and OC running 24/7.

Right now, though, you can get a really good kit like the XSPC Rasa WaterCooling Kit for $100+. It's getting great reviews and allows you to upgrade along the way. Also, it has all the parts you need to help you get familiar with them and watercooling. But, it doesn't come with coolant or gpu waterblocks. Most people use distilled water + some biocide. If they had this kit when I first started, I would've gotten it first.

If you decide to give it a try, let us know here and we'll help you along the way.
I was looking at that XSPC. I spent half a day looking through thr FAQ and reviews. One of the things that would hinder me from such a setup is wire management. See that wire would be in the way, but I'm sure I can somehow work around it. I wont look neat though.

Also, I was looking at a Coolmaster V10. That thing I heard get some great cooling for a non watercooled system.
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