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AT last, Kubuntu may no longer be the red-headed stepchild!

KDE FTW!
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Unity is a mistake. Adapting qt is a mistake. Ubuntu had such a good run but now they're just trying way too much stuff to make it a good distro.
While I agree; I can see what they are doing.

Can/*Buntu are not in the wrong for what they are trying; they are just not making the right choices.
They're still looking to open up a Linux distro to the public that can be adopted in mass, easily, by all. Which I have to wish them the best on; because it's a hard road to fight and will soon be a harder one for them.

Still, it seems like the Ubuntu team; at this point, should take a year off to consider where they are taking this project and a way to fix their past mistakes.

I still think they should make it for the mass public and include things like MP3 Support and such out the door; but they do need to get rid of things like Unity which only cause division in development. They are more of a problem then a solution.
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As of 10.10, you can install a whole crapload of codecs on the install. You need to just check the box off. How many of them get installed? I don't know.

I'm waiting for 11.04 to get past Alpha1 to see what this abortion is like.
    
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Great, just when you thought Ubuntu couldn't get anymore bloated, here come the Qt libraries!!!
Bloated... or versatile? More support is better.
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Bloated... or versatile? More support is better.
No, it's bloat.
    
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time to move to lubuntu
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I'm sure there will still be a Gnome version. Maybe GNUbuntu?
    
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No, it's bloat.
So you waste an extra 50MB of disk space and your day is now ruined? I don't see the issue here. Sure, if they include resource-hungry applications then fair enough I'll consider that bloat, but there are resource-hungry GTK+ applications as well.
    
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Lets see how they intend to keep their LiveCDs. I would prefer they keep separate images for different spins (one for KDE, another for Unity, etc). I just don´t want to have to download 1GB+ images.
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So you waste an extra 50MB of disk space and your day is now ruined? I don't see the issue here. Sure, if they include resource-hungry applications then fair enough I'll consider that bloat, but there are resource-hungry GTK+ applications as well.
It is not an issue so much as an opinion of what bloat means to the user. His sig that is running Arch, so someone may see that as TFB probably values a cleaner Linux install over one pre-packaged with more "bloat". Or just prefers to compile the needed functionality in his own way. Regardless though, we cannot give the term bloat the same bad name for Linux as it would have for Windows because it does not necessarily mean that it is going to slow the system down or even needs to be used if it is not needed or wanted.

For many users though having more out of the box functionality is valuable to the user and may even make for a more functional live cd, I'm not sure, but it will good for many while not so much for others. That is what is so good about Linux, that it comes in many flavours to try out and a person can stick to whatever they prefer.

I just hope that Ubuntu does not try to stick this down all of their users throat though.
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