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If you are set on a new build, and guessing your sig rig is your main rig, why don't you go the phenom x6 route and start with a single 6950 or 6970. Outside of very few games you will max every one. That will save you power, sound and upgradeable in the future. I would love a pair of 6970s but when will I use all that power?

Look into the 6950, unlock the shadders. Use the extra cash to upgrade something else.
i actualy tried to post that to you last night but i got a server error so i saved it and went to bed, this is what i had said.

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Trifire 5870 would not pass the crossfire 6870 by much, your looking for roughly the same power, +/- a few percent. The cost is way out of hand at that point. Also your heat, sound and power usage would be insane.

If you think you need that kind of power try the 6870 crossfire. If that fails, you could always upgrade to the 1gb 6950. A pair of 6950s (2gb) run around 550 after rebates. Pair of 5870 around 440 AR.

Step that up to trifire and now we are talking around 660. At that point you could be running the 6950 crossfire or even bump to full 6970 crossfire.

Your save money on your power bill, your sound would be less and performance greatly enhanced by using a 6xxx card if you need more than a single card. Also you would need to upgrade your psu for trifired 5870s.
So the end conclussion seems that the 69xx series would be the greatest all round value for crossfire.

out of curiosity, how well would a single 6950 or 6970 perform against a single 5870.
I ask this cause i know i will not be able to afford both cards at once. i aint wealthy infact my entire new build will probably take some time. I am however shoveling a good chunk of income tax towards it this year.


(ps, you mentioned upgrading my psu, i will not be using the 550 watt i have in this system, nor any of its other components, but i do have a 1000w psu in mind, would that work ok or would i need to step up a few watts)
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Either should win out over the 5870 bench's I have seen place them both above a 470 which is very close to the 5870 in a lot of cases, and 1K psu would easily power you, could probably get a nice 850 and do fine too though I would think since the new cards do pretty good power wise
    
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6870 because of less power = less heat and the 6xxx series card's have better Tesselation than the 5xxx series
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Cool this is all good to know ^^ im also pleased that the newer cards are more energy and heat efficient. That will make good overclocking. Does amyone know if there are waterblocks fittable to the new 6xxx cards? Prefferably good ones.
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Cool this is all good to know ^^ im also pleased that the newer cards are more energy and heat efficient. That will make good overclocking. Does amyone know if there are waterblocks fittable to the new 6xxx cards? Prefferably good ones.
At this time, most of the major water players have blocks out for the 68xx and 69xx cards. If you are going to put the cards under water, for the sake of cost efficiency, only put a 69xx in. A waterblock on a 68xx is a third to half the cost upfront. I could make a huge graph of cost efficiency if you wanted, but that gets crazy.

For block brand, I'm a fan of ek blocks. Tad on the pricy side but the quality makes up for it. Plus most people use ek here, so if you have questions your see faster and more accurate responses.

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At this time, most of the major water players have blocks out for the 68xx and 69xx cards. If you are going to put the cards under water, for the sake of cost efficiency, only put a 69xx in. A waterblock on a 68xx is a third to half the cost upfront. I could make a huge graph of cost efficiency if you wanted, but that gets crazy.

For block brand, I'm a fan of ek blocks. Tad on the pricy side but the quality makes up for it. Plus most people use ek here, so if you have questions your see faster and more accurate responses.

Hope this helps
Cool ill haVe to check those out thank you for keeping up to check wwith my questio.s here youve been great!
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No problems mate. Let us know what you end up with. Post pics too!
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5870 not bad but of course 6870 best choise..
    
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Should have clarified, that remark was to the point of using AMD and NVIDIA on a single mobo. As far as I know, the Crosshair iv extreme is the only board that can do so using an AMD CPU at this time
So,correct me if im wrong here...

Your saying that you cant use an ATI to render graphics and an Nvidia to process Physx(using Physx mod patch1.04 of course) on an AMD motherboard?

Wow,never knew that,learn something new everyday
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If you look at the charts for all games in all circumstances, both GPU's are basically in the same bracket of performance.

The 6870's in CrossfireX edge the 5870's in CrossfireX, but the difference in performance is not enough to write home about.

I think the best advantage is the tessellation performance the 6XXX series offers.
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