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So do these reservoirs just have an overarching problem sucking bubbles? I have one and my liquid turns white with froth within a few moments, I can't get this thing bled.
Edited by Phos - 1/23/11 at 3:09am
    
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Did you flush your rads and blocks before installation? The BP anti-cyclone fitting might help. Lower velocity/turbulence by temporarily creating an artificial restriction by kinking some tubing.
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post #3 of 11
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I flushed my radiator, but that only did so much, I can see some crap caught in the micro channels so I'm going to need to drain it again anyway.

The anti cyclone finning only does so much, and I'm not even sure if I have it on the correct hole (replaced the chrome tube on the res's inlet) because it doesn't come with any instructions.

What exactly is going to keep these bubbles from forming if I ever get this thing to bleed properly? It forms new bubbles the moment I release the kink, I can't make any headway.

To be honest, I'm more interested in a response to my question than advice, I have no context for what my reservoir should be doing during this process.

Actually I could probably do with a different sort of advice: what reservoirs are easy to bleed?
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post #4 of 11
What fluid are you using? Pure distilled water doesn't froth in my experience, and biocide shouldn't make that much difference.

Unless of course your pump just puts fluid into the reservoir so fast bubbles get no time to separate.


If that's the case I have had 2 XSPC reservoirs and never had any issues with them, current one is a bay reservoir:



This one is really good for clearing air, the channels in it stop the flow into the reservoir from being sucked up without it losing it's air and the little dome style bit on the output means it wont suck up air bubbles even if the fluid level in the reservoir drops. Only complaint is you need to tip it up to get the air out the output initially, which doesn't come close to outweighing the benefits (in my opinion at least)
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/XS...scia_1187.html

My old one was attached to my pump. It has a tube down the middle to maintain the flow of the water, so it does tend to carry air bubbles through, but they do bleed out in time.


http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/La...-XSPC_931.html

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In the intrest if reducing maintinence, I'm using Feser one. Does it cause those sorts of problems.
    
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In the intrest if reducing maintinence, I'm using Feser one. Does it cause those sorts of problems.
I don't know, I certainly had more issues using bought coolant with froth, but never anything serious.

(and in terms of maintenance, I personally find distilled water easier, mostly since I don't care if I spill any and it's much more readily available and cheaper)


I think more the issue is that reservoir, just found a youtube video of it sucking air bubbles into the loop:

    
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post #7 of 11
Perhaps the coolant is polymerizing.
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post #8 of 11
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Thanks for all the help. I've mostly got the problem solved, though I will probably need to slow the pump a tad if I want it to stop sucking bubbles completely. Which controllers are able to handle a DDC and interface with speedfan?

These Bitspower cylinder reservoirs are pretty bad, I would recommend others stay away from them.
    
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post #9 of 11
Air in the system you need to rock the Case , around a bit and replace the air with more fluid , Be careful not to get any on your components
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I hope no one minds me bumping my thread for this, but I would like to know what fan controllers can handle a DDC (355) and interface with Speedfan.
    
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