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A single GTX 570 is only 10% less than the 580, and will rival if not flat out outperform your ATI pair.
i dont see how a single 570 will beat a pair 6970

especially since there close

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...black-ops.html
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i dont see how a single 570 will beat a pair 6970

especially since there close

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...black-ops.html
I was thinking something else atm and was remembering back to http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...0-sli-review/1
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so you where comparing the 570 to the 6870 then
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those dell monitor arent bad =(. They actually really good.
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Hey guys, I am preparing to build my first ever computer! I have been researching parts for a little over a month (mostly using this website) and I think I am finally ready to take the plunge. I should be ordering the parts on Monday and I just wanted to get the approval of this board.
If it's your first build ever and you are not so experienced with computer hardware, my recommendation is DON'T SPEND SO MUCH MONEY ON IT. My first build was more like an experiment... and well, I learned tons of stuff out of it. I wouldn't risk all the $3000 on it.

$329.99 Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz - Unless you are going to do some heavy video editing, I don't see why spend $100 more on a 2600K rather than a 2500K
$224.99 2500K

$189.99 ASUS P8P67 PRO LGA 1155 - Please, if your budget allows go for a P8P67 Deluxe, it's WAY better at overclocking!
$239.99 DELUXE

$109.99 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - Nothing against your choice, but this Corsair Vengeance kit has lower latency.
$139.99 VENGEANCE

$529.99 EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 - What about two GTX460 on SLI; these ones over here are VERY factory overclocked and are way cheaper than one GTX580
$379.98 2x GTX460 1GB OC
$739.98 2x GTX570 OC see here

$149.99 XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W - Considering your budget, I'd look for a 80 Plus Gold unit, with higher efficiency, just like this Corsair AX850.
$179.99 after $20 MIR AX850W

$57.99 Thermaltake Frio - Many people seem to like the Corsair H70 liquid cooling kit, but I've got no idea whether it's any better than the one you've chosen.
$102.99 H70

$249.99 SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT02B-W - The case is really a very personal choice, choose the one you want!
$249.99 FT02B-W

$25.99 Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R - Yep
$25.99

$69.99 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 - The F3 (7200RPM) is faster and noisier, while the F4 (5400) is slower and quieter. Considering you want to get an SSD, I'd buy the F4 with 2 TB.
$99.99 F4 2TB

$264.99 Crucial RealSSD C300 - RIGHT NOW IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO BUY A NEW SSD. There are new ones coming out from Intel and the Vertex 3 in a short time. Just wait!
$0.0

$24.99 HighPoint Rocket 620 PCI-Express 2.0 x1 Low Profile Ready SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Controller Card - You don't need that.
$0.0

$89.99 ASUS Xonar DX - You don't really need a sound card, for the average person the motherboard audio is enough. But if you want it.
$89.99 DX
$199.99 ASUS Xonar STX see here

$24.99 Rosewill RNX-N300 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Wireless-N 2.0 PCI - IDK
$24.99 RNX-N300

$549.00 Dell UltraSharp U2410 24-inch - The U2410 is a GREAT monitor, but I think it's way too expensive compared to the U2211H, which is at sale for 250 dollars.
$249.99 U2211H
$319.99 U2311H see here

$69.99 RAZER Black Wired BlackWidow - I personally think the Logitech G510 is prettier.
$99.99 G510

$49.99 RAZER DeathAdder Precision Optical Gaming Mouse - Perfect choice. I love my Mamba though, it's wireless, but it's not worth the money. The battery barely lasts one day.
$49.99 DeathAdder

$49.99 Creative Inspire T3130 2.1 Speakers - IDK...
$49.99 T3130
$84.99 Sennheiser HD555
NEW PRICE [RED STUFF]: $2210 + shipping (missing the SSD)
NEW PRICE [RED+GREEN STUFF]: $2790 + shipping (missing the SSD)
Of course, you probably can get all the red+green stuff and still have money left to buy an SSD afterwords if you replace the GTX570 with GTX470

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Thanks, that looks like a pretty good setup.

Does anyone know if this is a good monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824176165
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post #47 of 51
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Originally Posted by klil View Post
If it's your first build ever and you are not so experienced with computer hardware, my recommendation is DON'T SPEND SO MUCH MONEY ON IT. My first build was more like an experiment... and well, I learned tons of stuff out of it. I wouldn't risk all the $3000 on it.

$329.99 Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz - Unless you are going to do some heavy video editing, I don't see why spend $100 more on a 2600K rather than a 2500K
$224.99 2500K

$189.99 ASUS P8P67 PRO LGA 1155 - Please, if your budget allows go for a P8P67 Deluxe, it's WAY better at overclocking!
$239.99 DELUXE

$109.99 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - Nothing against your choice, but this Corsair Vengeance kit has lower latency.
$139.99 VENGEANCE

$529.99 EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 - What about two GTX460 on SLI; these ones over here are VERY factory overclocked and are way cheaper than one GTX580
$379.98 2x GTX460 1GB OC
$739.98 2x GTX570 OC see here

$149.99 XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W - Considering your budget, I'd look for a 80 Plus Gold unit, with higher efficiency, just like this Corsair AX850.
$179.99 after $20 MIR AX850W

$57.99 Thermaltake Frio - Many people seem to like the Corsair H70 liquid cooling kit, but I've got no idea whether it's any better than the one you've chosen.
$102.99 H70

$249.99 SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT02B-W - The case is really a very personal choice, choose the one you want!
$249.99 FT02B-W

$25.99 Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R - Yep
$25.99

$69.99 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 - The F3 (7200RPM) is faster and noisier, while the F4 (5400) is slower and quieter. Considering you want to get an SSD, I'd buy the F4 with 2 TB.
$99.99 F4 2TB

$264.99 Crucial RealSSD C300 - RIGHT NOW IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO BUY A NEW SSD. There are new ones coming out from Intel and the Vertex 3 in a short time. Just wait!
$0.0

$24.99 HighPoint Rocket 620 PCI-Express 2.0 x1 Low Profile Ready SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Controller Card - You don't need that.
$0.0

$89.99 ASUS Xonar DX - You don't really need a sound card, for the average person the motherboard audio is enough. But if you want it.
$89.99 DX
$199.99 ASUS Xonar STX see here

$24.99 Rosewill RNX-N300 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Wireless-N 2.0 PCI - IDK
$24.99 RNX-N300

$549.00 Dell UltraSharp U2410 24-inch - The U2410 is a GREAT monitor, but I think it's way too expensive compared to the U2211H, which is at sale for 250 dollars.
$249.99 U2211H
$319.99 U2311H see here

$69.99 RAZER Black Wired BlackWidow - I personally think the Logitech G510 is prettier.
$99.99 G510

$49.99 RAZER DeathAdder Precision Optical Gaming Mouse - Perfect choice. I love my Mamba though, it's wireless, but it's not worth the money. The battery barely lasts one day.
$49.99 DeathAdder

$49.99 Creative Inspire T3130 2.1 Speakers - IDK...
$49.99 T3130
$84.99 Sennheiser HD555 see here

NEW PRICE [RED STUFF]: $2210 + shipping (missing the SSD)
NEW PRICE [RED+GREEN STUFF]: $2790 + shipping (missing the SSD)
Of course, you probably can get all the red+green stuff and still have money left to buy an SSD afterwords if you replace the GTX570 with GTX470

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Wow... so much fail in one post. Please check out the build I made him a few pages back. That one was pure performance.

Graphics Card
SLI 460s on a $3000 build?? That would be the biggest waste of money. They are under powered and he would have to sell both of them whenever he wanted to upgrade. I've said this since they came out, they are simply going to be relegated to PhysX cards within months.

Power Supply
Why the hell would you recommend an AX850?? If he were to go with SLI 460s he wouldn't need more then a good 650 watt to run everything no problem.

CPU Cooler
the H70 is nice but it is quite over priced considering for a few extra bucks you can get the 240mm Rasa kit... if OP doesn't want to go with that skip the H50/H70 and go with the Noctua NH-D14 which beats both the H50 and H70.

Hard Drive
Have you heard the Samsung F3?? it is faster and quieter then the Western Digital Caviar Black and for the price is an amazing deal. If you want more storage get a second one for RAID 0 and have both storage and incredible speed.

Sound Card
You completely contradict yourself in the sound card section. A good pair of head phones which you can get for $50 can differentiate between on board and a sound card. If OP obviously isn't an audiophile with hifi speakers/head phones why would he need the STX when he could just as easily make do with the $30 Xonar DG and be just as well off. The Xonar DX is a great sound card for the price and if it is within budget then go for it. If not the DG is still a solid budget choice and even has the headphone amp which is great.

Key Board
Prettier?? wow.... The G510 is nice but in the end it is still just a rubber dome key board. Depending on OPs choice of switch and whether or not he likes the tactile clicky Cherry MX Blues which IMO have a great feel then the BlackWidow is an great keyboard to buy. It has a lot of the features that other high end "gaming" rubber dome key boards have like programmable keys and on the fly macro recording while still being mechanical. And btw if you've seen one in person they are quite "pretty"

Mouse
Personally just stick with a wired mouse. While wireless is nice having to worry about a dieing battery and fumbling with cables to get it back on the charger is never a good thing while in the middle of a game.
Also this is just a question, I know on some older wireless mice I had performance would slowly get worse and worse as the batteries got older, does that still happen with the newer wireless mice such as the mamba?
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Wow... so much fail in one post. Please check out the build I made him a few pages back. That one was pure performance.
I couldn't agree more
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Get 2x 580's decent 5ms monitor @ 1080p, i7 2600k a H70, some 2000mhz ram from mushkin, do not get a 980x for gaming, for a headset I'd get the HS1A, keyboard, g15 logitech, the rest is up to you, also take note the Maximus iv is not a great OCer and some are being recalled.

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Does anyone know if this is a good monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824176165
It is a good monitor, but overpriced. If you really want to get an IPS monitor, you can get something along the lines of a Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23" for ~$320 at the moment, or as low as ~$275 on sale. Keep in mind, however, that IPS monitors have slower response times and will be quite a bit more expensive. I am in no way saying you shouldn't get one (I wish I had gotten one instead of my Asus TN) but they are made primarily for photo/video editing, not gaming.
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LITE-ON 24X iHAS424-9 Windows 7 Ultimate x32 Antec BP550 Plus Rosewill R101-P-BK 
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Intel Core i5-4670K Asus Maximus VI Impact EVGA GTX 680 SuperClocked G.Skill Trident X Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 840 Pro Western Digital Black (WD4001FZEX) Seagate Barracuda (ST2000DM001) Windows 7 Ultimate 
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Dell UltraSharp (U2412M) Ducky Shine II (DK9008S2) SeaSonic Platinum (1000w) CaseLabs Mercury S3 
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Razer Scarab KRK Rokit G2 (RP6G2) Logitech C920 HD Pro Webcam 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H ATI Radeon HD 4200 (Onboard) 2GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1333Mhz 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
LITE-ON 24X iHAS424-9 Windows 7 Ultimate x32 Antec BP550 Plus Rosewill R101-P-BK 
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