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there is no behind the motherboard tray. its a quick disconnect system whole board comes out with one screw. Really useful considering ive had the board out about 4-5 times now lol.

Really all we are talking about here is Looks, You guys totally failed to acknowledge i am designing a water cooling system. The cpu only recently had an air cooler installed on it.

I was running a ECO ALC, I realized everything on the market pretty much sucks as far as liquid cooling. I have been planning and designing a superior NO PUMP, gravity fed system. I dont think i can resuse the current block because it has a pump built into it... unless i can gut it out. I will probably end up buying a diffrent CPU block.

I plan to tie my GPU's and northbridge into this water loop as well, Even though ambient air temperature is NOT an issue for me at all right now. My water loop will make it even less of a problem.

When i am finished my GRAVITY based water loop will be superior to any loop you have seen before.
    
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I realized everything on the market pretty much sucks as far as liquid cooling.
You know a liquid cooled setup has a higher idle temp compared to normal air cooled systems right?

The only thing good about liquid cooled setups is that they don't fluxuate in heat as much as air cooling. But there's major downsides to liquid cooling like worrying about algae buildup, changing/topping up coolant every couple of months, coolant leakages, pump malfunctions, condensation, etc.

But for air, the only thing you need to worry about is dust, airflow, noise and possibly ambient temperatures.
So this why I feel air will always be superior to liquid.

Good luck with your gravity assisted loop though.
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You know a liquid cooled setup has a higher idle temp compared to normal air cooled systems right?

The only thing good about liquid cooled setups is that they don't fluxuate in heat as much as air cooling. But there a major downsides to liquid cooling like worrying about algae buildup, changing/topping up cooling every couple of months, coolant leakages, pump malfunctions, etc.

But for air, the only thing you need to worry about is dust, airflow, noise and possibly ambient temperatures.
So this I feel is why air will always beat water.

Good luck with your gravity assisted loop though.
The water loop i am designing will be superior to anything u have seen before, Because it is an open loop i will actual have a interchangeable water filter. I haven't exactly decided on the water mixture, but suffice to say when i am done with it, nothing will be able to live in it algae wise.

As for the Pump dying..... as i mentioned before my water loop will require no pump. I will be using water weight to pressurize the loop and provide superior water flow.

And leakage? do you really think i would let that happen?
I will be testing the loop vigorously before i apply it to use, There is a method to the madness.

When i am done, no Cooler on the market will be able to touch it. I am willing to bet good cash on it.
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The water loop i am designing will be superior to anything u have seen before, Because it is an open loop i will actual have a interchangeable water filter. I haven't exactly decided on the water mixture, but suffice to say when i am done with it nothing will be able to live in it algae wise. As for the Pump dying..... as i mentioned before my water loop will require no pump. I will be using water weight to pressurize the loop and provide superior water flow.
And how will you plan on moving water up vertically with gravity to circulate your entire rig?
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And how will you plan on moving water up vertically with gravity to circulate your entire rig?

You have to understand how water works to do this, I will be using a small aquarium. Where you find pressure in water? in depth of course and water volume.

Soo for example if i drill a hole in the bottom/side of the aquarium is where most of your pressure is. If i were to drill a hole half way up the pressure will be cut in half.

If your not careful you can actually create too much pressure, There are mathematical formulas i can use to calculate water pressure X volume.

I believe water cooling really is superior form of cooling the main issues with most rigs are the small radiators these kits come with. It doesn't take long b4 the radiators cannot dissipate heat fast enough and the crap water pumps cant pump water fast enough.

When i am done these problems will be completely resolved.
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And how will you plan on moving water up vertically with gravity to circulate your entire rig?
^^This. Without a pump I don't see that happening very easily. Sure the water would be able to get down no problem. Getting back up is a bit more difficult.
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^^This. Without a pump I don't see that happening very easily. Sure the water would be able to get down no problem. Getting back up is a bit more difficult.

LoL, just watch me do it.... its really NOT that hard to do. hardiest part is sealing it correctly. Creating enough pressure is very easy. The beauty of it is involves no mechanical parts which will actually choke your water flow. I will be using a PC radiator to cool the water at the end of the loop before it gets expelled back into the reservoir. The radiator probably wont be needed, but will insure superior cooling.
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And leakage? do you really think i would let that happen?
Leaks can happen without notice at anytime. And since you have a windowless case, you won't know that a leak occured before its too late.
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Without a pump the water won't circulate like you think it will. Sure, the water at the bottom of the aquarium is at a pressure that is twice as high as water at the midpoint (vertically) in the aquarium. The reason for this is the water is at hydrostatic equilibrium. The key word there is static...the pressure force balances the force due the mass of the water. Just attaching tubes to the side of a water tank will NOT force water to ciruclate through. The water will move a little due to heating from the CPU and your GPUs, however not nearly enough to actually cool them.
 
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Leaks can happen without notice at anytime. And since you have a windowless case, you won't know that a leak occured before its too late.
LoL do you really think having a window on my case is gonna save my pc from a leak? I think ill focus on making it Leak proof rather then relying on my ability to see a leak inside the case.... which probably wouldn't matter considering my case is concealed behind large stereoscopic 3D displays which are way my pleasing to my eyes then any pretty pimped out case.


You let me worry about leaks... lol
    
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