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from what i understand, to test your theory, you could get a big bottle, cut a hole half way up and one in the bottom. connect the 2 with a tube and pour water in and see what happens.
     
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from what i understand, to test your theory, you could get a big bottle, cut a hole half way up and one in the bottom. connect the 2 with a tube and pour water in and see what happens.
The only thing to maintane a constant siphon is to maintain a pressure differential between the two reservoirs.

the water entering the 2nd reservoir under gravity assist will help pressurize the 2nd reservoir. With and assist hand pump attached to prime.

Large tube diameter coming out of the first reservoir and smalliest tube diameter possible for the 2nd reservoir.

Idealy i would need a larger tube diameter that runs to the cpu, then a smaller tube diameter that leaves the cpu UP to the 2nd reservoir above the water level, then another smaller tube from the bottom of second reservoir leading back to the main tank.
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Do it then. If you do, you could make a lot of money
     
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doo itt
    
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air in the lines is haron's fountains...
it also is not sealed.

Here is another key factor

"The uphill flow of water in a siphon doesn’t violate the principle of continuity because the mass of water entering the tube and flowing upwards is equal to the mass of water flowing downwards and leaving the tube. "
If you're going to try and throw science in my face, please at least edit the quotes so they don't defeat your argument. The quote is referencing the arc of a siphon, and how the water may over the course of travel flow up, but it them immediately flows back down. As to Heron's fountain, it's only able to work because of the air in the lines, the different densities of air and water allow the water to move the air uphil because it's heavier. If you tried to do it with all water, it wouldn't work.

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The only thing to maintane a constant siphon is to maintain a pressure differential between the two reservoirs.

the water entering the 2nd reservoir under gravity assist will help pressurize the 2nd reservoir. With and assist hand pump attached to prime.

Large tube diameter coming out of the first reservoir and smalliest tube diameter possible for the 2nd reservoir.

Idealy i would need a larger tube diameter that runs to the cpu, then a smaller tube diameter that leaves the cpu UP to the 2nd reservoir above the water level, then another smaller tube from the bottom of second reservoir leading back to the main tank.
Do you realize that by cheating physics to get the pressure working, that there's no way you'll ever get water back up to the first res? I'm not trying to be a downer here, but there's a reason that after all these centuries no one's invented a perpetual motion machine. Lossed to friction, restriction of blocks/fittings, and GRAVITY will cause your machine to fail. In a horizontal layout, you could attempt to create something akin to a vapor-chamber, where the pressurized fluid circulates by evaporation and subsequent condensation, but I would presume that it's a bit too technical for you to make in your basement, and certainly not without some heavy calculations.
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If you're going to try and throw science in my face, please at least edit the quotes so they don't defeat your argument. The quote is referencing the arc of a siphon, and how the water may over the course of travel flow up, but it them immediately flows back down. As to Heron's fountain, it's only able to work because of the air in the lines, the different densities of air and water allow the water to move the air uphil because it's heavier. If you tried to do it with all water, it wouldn't work.



Do you realize that by cheating physics to get the pressure working, that there's no way you'll ever get water back up to the first res? I'm not trying to be a downer here, but there's a reason that after all these centuries no one's invented a perpetual motion machine. Lossed to friction, restriction of blocks/fittings, and GRAVITY will cause your machine to fail. In a horizontal layout, you could attempt to create something akin to a vapor-chamber, where the pressurized fluid circulates by evaporation and subsequent condensation, but I would presume that it's a bit too technical for you to make in your basement, and certainly not without some heavy calculations.
should be fine, he doesnt think that heavy calculation is beyond him. well id assume so if he wants to cheat phyics and gravity.
     
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