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post #1 of 9
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Hello, for my cpu cooling I currently have a Corsair H50 (as an intake) with Artic Silver 5 thermal compound in a Cooler Master Storm Scout case. My processor is an AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE at stock clocks and voltages (ASUS M4A79XTD-EVO motherboard if that helps). The cpu idles at around 38°C. I have tried all of the most common ways of applying the thermal compound (cleaning and purifying each time) and the small dot in the middle works the best. I recently installed an H50 in a friends computer who has the exact same cpu and similar case but his cpu idles at around 10°C lower than mine and I do not know why. The only other thing that I am going to do is install 2 fans in the push/pull configuration but it shouldn't lower the temp all too much. I am also considering lapping the H50 but am hesitant. If you have any ideas as to what the problem is please help me.
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post #2 of 9
idle temps mean nothing.

It's load temps that matter.
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post #3 of 9
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A 10°C difference on the same hardware?
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post #4 of 9
that could be the result of different ambient temperatures for one thing.

Another thing is maybe his TIM has cured and yours hasn't.

Also, you shouldn't worry about Idle. Worry about load.
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post #5 of 9
why did you remove te stock paste?
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post #6 of 9
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I removed the stock paste because I wanted to re-seat the pump to help out the tension on the hoses. I also tried the different ways of applying it to make sure it wasn't the paste.
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post #7 of 9
Mine is push/pull with AS5, no lapping. Idle is 30C with CnQ on, about 36C with CnQ off (30 watts of difference).

With just the corsair fan, my take on the H50 was slightly better cooling ability than the stock HSF without the noise. With push/pull, pull shroud, and decent fans, it's much more than that. Not on par with real water cooling to be sure but on my C2 CPU my mainboard runs out of ability to supply stable juice before the H50 runs out of capacity to take it away.
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post #8 of 9
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Thank you for the input because now I know there is nothing wrong. I am getting 36°C. Yesterday I ordered two fans for push/pull and I have a fan controller so I hope to get an ok overclock with it. Kinda weird that his was reading 26°C, oh well.
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post #9 of 9
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Update, I found out in CPU-Z that his is a C3 and mine is a C2.
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