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Not to jump in, but you can sell your PC hardware 3 years down the line for hundreds of dollars, probably for more than what any console sells for brand new. Try doing that with any console after owning it for even just 1 year.

Even in the long run after already owning a nice TV, consoles cost just as much, or more, as a custom PC build would.

PC Scenario:
1. Buy a $1,000 PC, enjoy it for 3-4 years, buying amazing recent games, some at $5, most at $20-$50.
3. Sell your GPU for $100, buy a new one for $200. Enjoy the same PC for another 2 years.
4. Sell your whole build for ~$500 and buy a new $1,000 build, costing $500 out of pocket and keeping compatibility with all the games you've bought. That's $1,500 (plus games) spent over 7 or more years. And that's considering you went for a $1,000 build; it only takes about $600 for a strong gaming build.

Console scenario:
1. Buy a PS3 for $300
2. Buy games ($60 each)
3. Cross your fingers that in 3 years, Sony/MS won't go for PS4/Xbox 3
4. Sell your PS3/360 when they do, for ~$100, probably less. Shell out another $300-$400 for the new generation. Toss out all your old games for the pennies you can scrounge for because they won't play on the new console.

Over a term of 10 years, you'd spend just about the same on hardware on both platforms, and much more on console games than on PC. I don't argue that it takes pretty high knowledge to fully enjoy high-end PC gaming, but ANYONE can very easily learn that with just a little dedication. If my somewhat mentally retarded friend learned it, anyone can.
Good point.
Though, we are talking about average users here. Most people just want to play, with instant gratification. It doesn't matter how easy it is to learn the ways of PC gaming, it is still a lot more effort than getting a PS/Xbox.
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Something you guys are ignoring is that every pc gamer outthere doesn't need a 500$ graphic card. Even a -100$ GPU will do for whatever game they will play, they don't care about 120FPS+dx11+ULTRAQUALITY+x16AA, they care about.. oH I CAN RUN IT YES!
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I guess you guys have never heard of playing in comfort of a livingroom, couch and friends all around with controllers going from hand to hand.. hmm?
I'm sorry but this reasoning has GOT to stop. What do you people think I play on my computer in some sort of torture chamber??? I have a nice comfy chair I game in for hours on end if I like to. Just cause we don't like to game on a console doesn't mean we don't like to be comfortable. If I need to edit for 8 hours at my computer well it better damn well be COMFY.

Not a personal attack or anything just I feel the need to break up a bad line of reasoning.
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some really selfish, PC centric thoughts here.
For good reason:

A.) This is OCN: A computer enthusiast website

B.) You won't see console gamers sticking up for their PC gaming counterparts, so we have to fight our own battles. In return, we show them little-to-no love.

While I was a big fan of Phantasy Star Online on Dreamcast, I can't see REAL MMO's making a huge splash on consoles...at least as stated, not this generation.
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Aside from Zinxe, the rest of you are just pud-pullers.

"Herpaderp everyone should own and game on a PC! Herpaderp! PC's are better! Consoles shouldn't exist! Herpaderpaderpaderpaderp!"

Really. The mere fact that some of you cannot think outside of your niche-market box just goes to show the lack of intelligence around here.

PC Gamers ARE NOT the mainstream. Sony received this information from people who play on the PLAYSTATION. Sony didn't just make it up. It's what THEIR customer want, not what YOU think their customers should want.
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I guess you guys have never heard of playing in comfort of a livingroom, couch and friends all around with controllers going from hand to hand.. hmm?
Lol. Sorry man, but my friends and I play classics (NES, SNES, SEGA, N64, XBOX) on my PC all the time through 360 wireless controllers hooked up to my pc with the microsoft connection dongle thing.

Rocking out to NBA jam with my friends or an old Blitz football game is enjoyable. And I don't have to swap consoles, tv inputs, etc to do it. Did I mention my PC hooks into my tv too?
    
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Aside from Zinxe, the rest of you are just pud-pullers.

"Herpaderp everyone should own and game on a PC! Herpaderp! PC's are better! Consoles shouldn't exist! Herpaderpaderpaderpaderp!"

Really. The mere fact that some of you cannot think outside of your niche-market box just goes to show the lack of intelligence around here.

PC Gamers ARE NOT the mainstream. Sony received this information from people who play on the PLAYSTATION. Sony didn't just make it up. It's what THEIR customer want, not what YOU think their customers should want.
No crap it's what THEIR customers want. Why would they cater to any other market? The point is they are trying to apply a statement as bold as that to the whole market. They aren't saying "Our customers want console MMO's" they are saying "Gamers want console MMO's" which is TOTALLY untrue. An MMO, pretty much ANY MMO that isn't two-bit hack-n-slash I-win button approved will be made for the PC. There just isn't enough input on a console to even fathom putting a decently thought out MMO on one. How the hell am I going to map 30+ hotkeys to a controller? Without the controller, what do you have? A PC basically... just with less functionality.

Bottom line is a PC can do anything a console can do, and better, for just as much $. It just takes less thought to get a console up and running. So hooray to Sony for continuing to feed their blanket of ignorance they have draped over the console market.
 
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It's difficult for 2 reasons.

Constant patches, and controls.
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No crap it's what THEIR customers want. Why would they cater to any other market? The point is they are trying to apply a statement as bold as that to the whole market. They aren't saying "Our customers want console MMO's" they are saying "Gamers want console MMO's" which is TOTALLY untrue. An MMO, pretty much ANY MMO that isn't two-bit hack-n-slash I-win button approved will be made for the PC. There just isn't enough input on a console to even fathom putting a decently thought out MMO on one. How the hell am I going to map 30+ hotkeys to a controller? Without the controller, what do you have? A PC basically... just with less functionality.

Bottom line is a PC can do anything a console can do, and better, for just as much $. It just takes less thought to get a console up and running. So hooray to Sony for continuing to feed their blanket of ignorance they have draped over the console market.
I'm not sure comments like this will ever end.

Please, build me a list of parts that equal $300 that will allow you to do everything a PS3 can do. Now, remember, you'll need to pick more powerful parts because the content won't be optimized for the PC versions. Also, XDR Ram (which PS3 uses) is faster than DDR3, so good luck. Do it. Please.
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I'm not sure comments like this will ever end.

Please, build me a list of parts that equal $300 that will allow you to do everything a PS3 can do. Now, remember, you'll need to pick more powerful parts because the content won't be optimized for the PC versions. Do it. Please.
If used falls under fair game, that's pretty possible.
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