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Originally Posted by Kung Pow;13968398 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foCZWEa0GSU

Seems like buisness to me.
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow;13968761 
Sry Alex for giving you a hard time but this issue really enraged me a bit.

I'm not going to sit here and debate with you on this topic. If you think it's "business" with your multiple Youtube links, then believe what you want to believe.

If this issue enrages you, take a vacation from technology. Get over it, because the sooner you not let this get to you, the sooner you can enjoy the technology provided.
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How can MSI send out a free card to a review site that doesn't even know how to properly test them? There's so many review sites like this too...

It's not easy.... running a business vs. running a profitable business are two completely different things.

It's not that easy to find a reviewer that can test all the hardware configs, or even know how to test the latest and greatest.

If I asked an overclocker here to become a reviewer tomorrow, most people would jump at it. Then throw in writing skills, communication skills, ability to do repetitive tasks, analyze, and all this before you even sit down and actually write the article... then it gets harder.

Oh, and somehow make the site profitable, so it's worth your time. Yeah, not that easy anymore.

Everyone complains about how crappy review sites are, but in reality they are the easiest way to get unbiased opinion on product. Sure, it might not be what OCN folks want, but it's what works for the masses.

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Originally Posted by csm725;13969140 
Having issues on my 560 Hawk from 270.61 to never previously installed 266.58's. Get an error that graphics hardware was detected not to be compatible with this driver. What to do?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-266.58-whql-driver.html

266.58 came out before GF114 was launched. OF COURSE YOU HAVE ISSUES! You're using a driver that was never built for that chip!
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Well, howdy!

Aherm, sir. Is MSI currently working on GTX 680s? Have you received chips from Nvidia yet?

Aherm.
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performance throttling on its own is not an indicator for chip ability limitation rather than a voltage problem.
If voltage was an issue it would be crashing. The power limiter is kicking in and throttling the card. Luckily the Lightning cards have a switch to disable this Just use proper cooling when doing so.
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MSIalex .... I recently bought 2 GTX 560 ti TF2 and in the cover of the box, the yellow warranty star states 3 year warranty is only valid in USA, Canada and Mexico, well I'm from Mexico and I'd like to know if any of my card fails how can I claim warranty from here? Does MSI pays shipping to whatever adress they tell me to send it? My guess is that it should be an adress inside USA.

Thanks and great products.
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MSIalex .... I recently bought 2 GTX 560 ti TF2 and in the cover of the box, the yellow warranty star states 3 year warranty only valid in USA, Canada and Mexico only, well I'm from Mexico and I'd like to know if any of my card fails how can I claim warranty from here? Does MSI pays shipping to whatever adress they tell me to send it? My guess is that it should be an adress inside USA.

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If voltage was an issue it would be crashing. The power limiter is kicking in and throttling the card. Luckily the Lightning cards have a switch to disable this Just use proper cooling when doing so.
But disabling the power limit will void the warranty.
There should be another method to just raise the limit in order to reach a certain specific clock and not break it completely.

I think a BIOS mod could do that more precisely than the switch and of course most importantly without voiding the warranty due to the ability of just flashing back to the original one.
I have also seen that being done on 6970´s through various BIOS mods actually.
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Since you previously said that you are already working on the 680s. I just wanted to know what kind of performance jump it would be. Is it going to be a modest jump in performance like between the 4XX and the 5XX series or will it be something a bit more significant?
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Since you previously said that you are already working on the 680s. I just wanted to know what kind of performance jump it would be. Is it going to be a modest jump in performance like between the 4XX and the 5XX series or will it be something a bit more significant?
Read the first post in Alex's thread. No discussion of NDA material. If you're looking for info on Kepler you're going to have to find it leaked from some other source.


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But disabling the power limit will void the warranty.
There should be another method to just raise the limit in order to reach a certain specific clock and not break it completely.

I think a BIOS mod could do that more precisely than the switch and of course most importantly without voiding the warranty due to the ability of just flashing back to the original one.
I have also seen that being done on 6970´s through various BIOS mods actually.
The best you can do is try lowering the voltage to see if you're stable beyond 960 or try another card and see if it requires less voltage. It's the same with CPUs where some 2600Ks can hit 5Ghz with less than 1.4 volts and some require much more. I don't think the BIOS even controls the PWM on this card but you can try.

Another method is simply better cooling. More heat = less power efficiency = more power draw. Lower the temps.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 6/22/11 at 5:02pm
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Read the first post in Alex's thread. No discussion of NDA material. If you're looking for info on Kepler you're going to have to find it leaked from some other source.
I'm not looking for specific benchmarks or anything like that. I'm more interested in the trend of new series and the change in performance. an acceptable answer would be "significant" or "moderate" gain. Benchmarks I know would be blocked by the NDA.
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Since you previously said that you are already working on the 680s. I just wanted to know what kind of performance jump it would be. Is it going to be a modest jump in performance like between the 4XX and the 5XX series or will it be something a bit more significant?
Understand that MSI is just a manufacturer/distributor.

The ones you wanna be asking about Kepler is Nvidia since they are the main developers,engineers and designers of the 28nm technology.
Manufacturers like MSI just put a cooler on top and sell it



28nm is said to be 3-4 times more efficient in its power per watt ratio than fermi .....logically you can imagine at least a 50% pure performance increase over Fermi or more.

But for further information look for another thread
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Understand that MSI is just a manufacturer/distributor.

The ones you wanna be asking about Kepler is Nvidia since they are the main developers,engineers and designers of the 28nm technology.
Manufacturers like MSI just put a cooler on top and sell it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq202LKkeHI


28nm is said to be 3-4 times more efficient in its power per watt ratio than fermi .....logically you can imagine at least a 50% pure performance increase over Fermi or more.

But for further information look for another thread
This is the information I was looking for. Thank you very much.
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