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Rumour has it that Apple is planning to shift its Mac line back to RISC processors, ditching Intel for industry darling ARM - but would it really make such a major change so soon after adopting CISC?
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Tim Cook, the acting CEO for Apple, confirmed yesterday that the company will be spending nearly four billion dollars over the next 24 months in what it calls long term component contracts - and we believe that Apple might be on the verge of bringing back Project Aquarius.
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definitely interesting if true... though I'd be happier if Apple switched to using AMD x86 processors (like those rumors suggested back in june when bobcat samples went out)
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I'd be for it.

think of it as such

x86 for heavy lifting
ARM(and x86 emulation) for daily computing.

it's the future.
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I'd be for it.

think of it as such

x86 for heavy lifting
ARM(and x86 emulation) for daily computing.

it's the future.
i haven't heard of a chip that can emulate x86 well... thats partially what buried transmeta. Granted an ARM eagle multi-core chip running @ 2+ ghz is quite a bit different then what transmeta had I remain skeptical.

MS has said that win 8 will run on ARM... couldn't apple have an ARM OS that connects well with their x86 OS?

I also wonder how something like Steam would work (as for something like steam to work the software (and games) that steam offers would have to bridge the gap)
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They switched from RISC to CISC and now they are looking at going from CISC to RISC again. They need to make a decision and stick with it. Also, I don't see ARM ever becoming very powerful. IBM and ARM are working together to "create smaller, faster chip designs which won't eat through as much power." It is then logical to assume that the rest of the deal is that IBM (with its POWER architecture) retains the performance market. It seems to me that it would be far easier for IBM to scale down its current processors than for ARM to scale up its processors.
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I see people completely abandoning Apple when this happens...
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Well... iOS is a cash cow, Mac OS isn't. They probably want to merge the two, and make the iPad an actual tablet instead of an oversized iPod, with Macbooks essentially becoming iPads with a built in keyboard.

I don't think Apple is that stupid though. I highly doubt they can convince Adobe to release their creative suite for ARM, and without them Apple is just a brand for people who don't know how to turn their computers on. Even if they keep their workstations x86 they are going to receive even less software support than they do now without a mainstream component.
    
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i haven't heard of a chip that can emulate x86 well... thats partially what buried transmeta. Granted an ARM eagle multi-core chip running @ 2+ ghz is quite a bit different then what transmeta had I remain skeptical.

MS has said that win 8 will run on ARM... couldn't apple have an ARM OS that connects well with their x86 OS?

I also wonder how something like Steam would work (as for something like steam to work the software (and games) that steam offers would have to bridge the gap)
emulation is software... think itanium
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I see people completely abandoning Apple when this happens...
I don't.
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emulation is software... think itanium
i was under the impression that Transmeta's Efficeon didn't require a software layer to deal with x86 code? it was more along that line that i was thinking

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Transmeta's Efficeon can run RISC-based apps or translate x86 code. Built using 130-nanometer technology, Efficeon can process eight instructions per clock tick--twice that of its Crusoe TM5800 predecessor--and features a 1-Mbyte cache size, an increase over Crusoe's 512-Kbyte cache. Efficeon can also run at a speed of 1.1 GHz while drawing 7 watts of electricity.
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I see people completely abandoning Apple when this happens...
you act as if the general public knows what is in their computer.

The normal customer just looks at what the ad says, and looks to see what numbers are the biggest or what so and so said is best. Most people wouldnt know such a huge hardware change was made unless it severely impacted the users experience
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