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Hello ! This is my first post here on overclock.net heh

I will post few more things in next hour or so , it would all be in one message , but it's about different things so it can't be in one place :/


So , I was looking at many reviews about thermal pastes , and I can't decide , which one to buy ...

Arctic Silver 5

Arctic Cooling MX-2

Arctic Cooling MX-3

Maybe another one , but at my country - Latvia , latest ones appear in a bit more than few months :/ And might not be here [ Latvia ] ... I read about MX-4 , and IC Seven diamond that they are good too , but sadly not available for Latvia ..



From reviews I found out that MX-3 is best of these 3 ... http://www.hardwarelook.com/review.php?id=14&page=1 here is link about one of many reviews I reviewed .. I see that MX-3 as MX-2 has these features ..

* High Thermal Conductivity
* Low Thermal Resistance
* Non-Electrically Conductive
* Non-Capacitive
* Non-Corrosive
* No Curing
* No Bleeding


So , looks like it very good .. Is there anything bad about these features ?

Can I also '' kill '' , damage my PC components by static electricity ? I haven't got anti-static emm bracelet so before touching PC I usually touch my radiator to get off electricity ...

Can thermal paste damage emm CPU or CPU cooler too ? If yes , then how ?

'' No curing '' is that good ?


Will it be hard to apply MX-3 ? How often should I reapply thermal paste ? How I can get thermal paste off CPU ? If I put pea sized peace of MX-3 on my CPU and then cooler above [ like smudge it ] and MX-3 still has not covered all CPU , should I put like smaller pieces than pea at those places and smudge it again , then what overflows I could take off ?

I need to remove my CPU and then apply thermal paste or no ?

Is there anything better than MX-3 , and if so , please tell me all thermal pastes that you know that are better than MX-3 and maybe a review [ link - web page ] because probably most of them won't be available to Latvia xD




I'm sorry that I have so many questions , but I'm kinda new about PC stuff and really really like things about PC and I want to know more , although I know prices , what's better and what's not [ most cases ] I still don't know how to wire everything , where I screw motherboard , how to apply CPU cooler and other simple stuff ...

I hope somebody will help me


p.s. English is not my primary language so I'm sorry if there are any mistakes
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Hi and welcome to OCN.

MX-3>MX-2>AS5, or if you can find some IC-Diamond.
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You'd do better to worry about proper application, than which one to buy.

The temp differences between those compounds is small. However the temp differences from improperly installing it can be huge.

I'm not sure what the pricing is over there, but I'd pickup either MX-3 or AS5. Honestly you wont be able to tell the 1-2C difference between them.
    
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Ok , then MX-3 it is

How about rest of questions ?

Can thermal paste damage PC components , how often it should be changed , how to do it properly etc. ?
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Ok , then MX-3 it is

How about rest of questions ?

Can thermal paste damage PC components , how often it should be changed , how to do it properly etc. ?
1- Yeah can damage it IF you apply the thermal paste where should not go. The CPU and CPU cooler support the thermal paste without problems.
2- If you don¡t have an anti-static bracelet, just do the things touching any of the metal parts of your case, with that you discharge your statical current.
3- You need remove the CPU, clean the old thermal paste (using isoprophyl alcohol or normal alcohol) and apply the new one.
4- You can see here the best ways to apply the thermal paste depending of your cooler: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...d=170&Itemid=1
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1- Yeah can damage it IF you apply the thermal paste where should not go. The CPU and CPU cooler support the thermal paste without problems.
2- If you don¡t have an anti-static bracelet, just do the things touching any of the metal parts of your case, with that you discharge your statical current.
3- You need remove the CPU, clean the old thermal paste (using isoprophyl alcohol or normal alcohol) and apply the new one.
4- You can see here the best ways to apply the thermal paste depending of your cooler: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...d=170&Itemid=1
Thank you for your answers

Also , should MX-3 stay on my CPU for 6-8 years ? Arctic cooling says that MX-3 can be used for 6-8 years O_o I think thermal paste should be applied every year or every 2 years ... Also there are curing thermal pastes , so like AS5 , curing time ~ 250 hours .. This means I can start using my PC after 250 hours ?
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Thank you for your answers

Also , should MX-3 stay on my CPU for 6-8 years ? Arctic cooling says that MX-3 can be used for 6-8 years O_o I think thermal paste should be applied every year or every 2 years ... Also there are curing thermal pastes , so like AS5 , curing time ~ 250 hours .. This means I can start using my PC after 250 hours ?
Curing time means that it wont be at it's best until it's been in use for 250 hours.

So example. You apply AS5. Temperatures after you freshly applied it are 60C at load. It has a 250hr cure time. After 250 hours of use, load temperatures have now decreased to 55C because the compound has "cured".
    
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Curing time means that it wont be at it's best until it's been in use for 250 hours.

So example. You apply AS5. Temperatures after you freshly applied it are 60C at load. It has a 250hr cure time. After 250 hours of use, load temperatures have now decreased to 55C because the compound has "cured".
Oh , ok thx !
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Curing time means that it wont be at it's best until it's been in use for 250 hours.

So example. You apply AS5. Temperatures after you freshly applied it are 60C at load. It has a 250hr cure time. After 250 hours of use, load temperatures have now decreased to 55C because the compound has "cured".
This.

About the "life" time of the thermal grease, that depends more of the use that you give to your rig. When you see that you are getting very bad temps, is time to apply a new thermal grease.
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Hi Bige,
here you can find one of the best articles ever about TIMs:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=150&Itemid=62
And the page about "excellent performance" here:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...&limitstart=12

Unfortunately seems that Olin did not have any MX-3 (article is 06/2009),
anyway MX-3 is sightly better than MX-2, both performs very good.
I'd take also Shin-Etsu into consideration, easy to find it if you live in US,
harder if you are from EU.
Be sure you apply it in the right way, that is far more important than the
brand or kind of thermal compound you're gonna buy.
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