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Analysis of Google's patent portfolio suggests it's not strong measured against rivals such as Microsoft, Oracle and Apple. That's not good news as it comes to inevitable court battles
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Yay patents...
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So this means... they can't sue people? I don't think anyone but them actually cares.
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So this means... they can't sue people? I don't think anyone but them actually cares.
Actually, having a weak patent portfolio can be very dangerous. If they're ever sued for patent infringement, their lack of patents means that reaching a cross-licensing deal will be very difficult. In the software world, patents are a very real danger, more so than copyrights. Why do you think Novell signed that cross-licensing deal with Microsoft? Because when your competitor has 500 patents that you may or may not be infringing on (and conversely, they might be infringing on yours), you don't want to take chances. Patent litigation is time consuming and expensive, so the more easily you can avoid it the better.
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Otherwise, Oracle will prevail and the vast majority of Android applications would presumably have to be rewritten. So chances are this will cost Google (and possibly the Android ecosystem at large) dearly.
I haven't read about the lawsuit but this makes it sound like a pretty big deal.
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Patent whores will be patent whores.
Patents/copywrites stifles ingenuity/creativity and slows down overall progress.
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I hate it when companies pee all over open-source software, waving patents about. Completely missing the point of FOSS to make a quick buck
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Originally Posted by chemicalfan View Post
I hate it when companies pee all over open-source software, waving patents about. Completely missing the point of FOSS to make a quick buck
FOSS is actually okay with patents if you read closely, you're just obligated to license the patent to everybody at no cost. For a while, Stallman himself advocated software patents on FOSS products so that patent trolls couldn't harm the FOSS movement.
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I find it rather funny that Google just didn't care enough to file 10,000 patents like everyone else. "Screw it, just improvise as we go along." I also recall Google winning most, possibly all of those suits mentioned. I sort of don't understand why it's a huge deal. If another company patents a bunch of stuff that Android already has, don't laws state that that patent is illegitimate? I already invented something years ago. If you patent it and try to sue me, you can't, because I invented it years ago and it has been publicly available for so long. I think it's also pretty hard to sue for monetary damages when Google literally gives away Android absolutely free.
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I find it rather funny that Google just didn't care enough to file 10,000 patents like everyone else. "Screw it, just improvise as we go along." I also recall Google winning most, possibly all of those suits mentioned. I sort of don't understand why it's a huge deal. If another company patents a bunch of stuff that Android already has, don't laws state that that patent is illegitimate? I already invented something years ago. If you patent it and try to sue me, you can't, because I invented it years ago and it has been publicly available for so long. I think it's also pretty hard to sue for monetary damages when Google literally gives away Android absolutely free.
If you can prove the moment of invention, then yes, you can argue that the patent is invalid. However, some of these patents date well before Android, I'm sure. And even if Google makes nothing on Android, they can still be sued for damages.
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If you can prove the moment of invention, then yes, you can argue that the patent is invalid. However, some of these patents date well before Android, I'm sure. And even if Google makes nothing on Android, they can still be sued for damages.
Even then, I'm sure many of the patents we're speaking about here are too general to be authentic patents. Things like "multiple desktop screens on a touchscreen" and "finger swiping gestures."
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