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Originally Posted by B!0HaZard View Post
This is Denmark, my friend, not the US. That's one of the main reasons why I even wrote prices on these things.
you didnt specify that you already converted the currency, and the windows machine is going to be better spec wise but the Mac is no slouch and the software that comes with the mac is fantastic. so its really her preference in is she wants great prefromance or better battery life/ portability.

also you can always upgrade the hard drive and ram in both machines
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I bought my gf's i5 laptop for $500 do something similar and slap in a 120gb ssd and it will smoke that mac.
    
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post #13 of 47
Just let her waste her money man.. I know so many people like that.
If you can't convince her, it's her loss not yours. I've given up on trying to convince people like this a long time ago.

I know it's sad to see more mac people around you but oh well..

Although what usually happens is that a person buys a $400 computer, overloads it with trash, then complains, throws it away, and buys a mac for what.. $2000 and says how much better the macs are. And the only thing they can trash on that computer is HDD space, not startup programs, due to the small number of programs on the mac..

Windows has some tricks you have to do to optimize it, and a Mac rarely does. The interface is so dumbed down, even my grandma would be able to figure it out. And she's even afraid to touch anything computer-related. But you do have to pay the price for that user-friendliness, by buying the hardware for 2x the price it's actually worth
Edited by srsdude - 1/20/11 at 1:36pm
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At that price you can definitely get an i7 over an i5, or an i5 for much less. I just bought my wife a Toshiba i5 laptop for $450 and it's quite snappy. It only has the i5's integrated GPU but it can surprisingly run Source games. An i5 or i7 with a decent dedicated GPU and SSD shouldn't pass $1,200.

No one in my friends/family are allowed to buy an Apple product. I told them that if they did, they'd relinquish all computer-related support from me as I don't do Apple. I love telling my customers as well that I don't touch icky Apples. It's very pleasing.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 1/20/11 at 1:41pm
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post #15 of 47
She is completely correct about the software optimization (the how is simple as the software is optimized for specific hardware, where windows is make to work on near infinite hardware combinations) however as configured above that Windows machine will be faster, however the average user will not know the difference.

EDIT: a good program to show this is F@H
Edited by OutOfBalanceOX - 1/20/11 at 1:37pm
    
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post #16 of 47
the windows laptop will be much faster. the hardware on the macbook just cant contend. not sure which currency ur looking at right now, but u can get an i7 machine for much cheaper and just install an ssd.
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Yeah I know how you feel, I work in an Apple Authorized Retail Store. Macs are definitely over priced for their specs, that's why I only buy the cheapest Mac laptop. It is much lighter and thinner than most laptops on the market and really good build quality. Oh and not to mention that multi-touch trackpad.

Yes the PC laptop you picked is much better spec wise but I swear 80% out there have no idea what the difference is. Everyday I explain to people what a processor is or what RAM is...it depends on her perspective I suppose. Just looking at both sides of the argument =D
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What does she need?

Like is she gaming, watching netflix, photo engineering, music producing, or just e-mailing and skyping friends?

You might be a HW enthusiast but it sounds like she is really looking for in intuitivity of the computer.
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what does she use it for? just browsing the internet?
I imagine it's mostly Facebook, schoolwork and maybe the occasional Sims? I don't know her that well. And I know my Windows Machine is totally overpowered for those needs, I just thought "Ahh, why the hell not!" when I saw how much you have to pay for a Mac
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you didnt specify that you already converted the currency, and the windows machine is going to be better spec wise but the Mac is no slouch and the software that comes with the mac is fantastic. so its really her preference in is she wants great prefromance or better battery life/ portability.

also you can always upgrade the hard drive and ram in both machines
I'm not sacrificing battery life, I'm getting better battery life. Not even kidding.
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Just let her waste her money man.. I know so many people like that.
If you can't convince her, it's her loss not yours. I've given up on trying to convince people like this a long time ago.

I know it's sad to see more mac people around you but oh well..

Although what usually happens is that a person buys a $400 computer, overloads it with trash, then complains, throws it away, and buys a mac for what.. $2000 and says how much better the macs are. And the only thing they can trash on that computer is HDD space, not startup programs, due to the small number of programs on the mac..
Hence my "it's probably full of crap she's installed"-comment I hate the average user.
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At that price you can definitely get an i7 over an i5, or an i5 for much less. I just bought my wife a Toshiba i5 laptop for $450 and it's quite snappy. It only has the i5's integrated GPU but it can surprisingly run Source games. An i5 or i7 with decent dedicated GPU shouldn't pass $1,200.
It does with an SSD At least in Denmark...
No one in my friends/family are allowed to buy an Apple product. I told them that if they did, they'd relinquish all computer-related support from me as I don't do Apple. I love telling that to my customers as well. It's very pleasing.
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Originally Posted by OutOfBalanceOX View Post
She is completely correct about the software optimization however as configured above that Windows machine will be faster, however the average user will not know the difference.
Hadn't even considered that one
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the windows laptop will be much faster. the hardware on the macbook just cant contend. not sure which currency ur looking at right now, but u can get an i7 machine for ~$1100 usd. on newegg.
Still, not possible in Denmark

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What does she need?

Like is she gaming, watching netflix, photo engineering, music producing, or just e-mailing and skyping friends?

You might be a HW enthusiast but it sounds like she is really looking for in intuitivity of the computer.
Not the point. We're only discussing performance. And despite MacOS being more intuitive, I think it'd be difficult to switch from a Windows to an Apple environment, especially when Macs are so rare. People around her wouldn't know how to use it and if she got compatibility problems in school or something she might not be able to get help. I'd guess 1 in 100 laptops are Macs over here. People don't want to pay for 'em.
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Originally Posted by oregonducks45 View Post
you didnt specify that you already converted the currency, and the windows machine is going to be better spec wise but the Mac is no slouch and the software that comes with the mac is fantastic. so its really her preference in is she wants great prefromance or better battery life/ portability.

also you can always upgrade the hard drive and ram in both machines
The problem is mac costs more. My second thing Id like to add is my pc loads windows 7 in 13 seconds and im on the internet, with my ssd.
I like win 7 I installed mac as Hacintosh 1 time , not a fan of mac.
Edited by battlecryawesome - 1/20/11 at 1:56pm
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