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This may sound funny from a first post, but I'm a champion lurker and I needed to come out (as it were).

My new system is shown below my post, which is quite the upgrade as I had a core2duo e4500 setup just before. What I've had enough of is the combination of heat AND noise. They are both annoying by themselves, but together they can reduce a grown man to tears. I need to get rid of one or the other, or ideally somehow reduce both. The three pics below are some settings, plus the internal shots of my case (an Antec P180b/P182).












Firstly, what on earth is the temp shown as "Temp 2" on speedfan? Whatever this is, it went as high as 86 degrees under prime95, so I thought it couldn't possible be the cpu temp, as Prime95 would likely fail at that temp no? Realtemp doesn't show that, only the supposed core temps. I've included the results of the cooling test you can do with core temp, in case it means anything to anyone.

The temps shown are with the side of the case off - if I put it back on you can add 5 to 10 degrees to those temps! Now I'm sure the first thing you will want to say is "poor cable management", and I'd happily agree. I will get round to that later. I have 4 120mm fans (I removed the tricool fans that came with the case in favour of 3 pin fans which are apparently "quieter). You can see one at the top, one besides the cpu, one at the front of the case, and one in the psu/hdd chamber at the bottom.

My new mobo (MSI P67-C45A) has 4 fan headers, so I ditched my cheap fan controller thinking I wouldn't need it. Turns out, the mobo only supports speed control on two of those headers, which I really hate! I'll be putting the fan controller back in. And yes, I am using my Sandy Bridge with stock cooling, and an even worse crime - stock tim. I will definitely be changing that in the near future - all suggestions welcome!

Now onto the PSU. It is an Antec Neo HE 500, and I was quite concerned whether this would power a Sandy Bridge setup with a few hdds, fans, and a power hungry Ati HD 4890. Luckily it does power it, though I haven't tried overclocking in case I'm right on the threshold of the psu. I am slightly comforted to see that some people on this board also have a 500w psu with a similar setup, but running even more recent vid cards (I saw a 6870 even)! Do you think I need a new psu going forward if I am thinking of upgrading my vid card?

Speaking of which - all my fuss over noise is compounded by my vid card fan - its a screamer! Idle it's still louder than all the other fans, but under load it negates the point of quiet cooling in the rest of my pc! Is this something I have to live with, or is there a better way (via air though - I'm not quite brave enough to take the watercooling step).

And finally we come to my case. Why oh why is it a lot hotter with the side of the case on? I'd assume it meant bad airflow, but I know that good cable management won't shave off 5-10 degrees! Is my case simply not that great? Should I have gone for a better one?

As far as I know, ambient temps are kind of high in the room I use the computer in, so cooling will be relative. I don't want to spend too much, but I am happy to get aftermarket cpu cooling, especially as I will overclock at some point.

Any and all advice/comments appreciated and welcome!

*Edit* I forgot to explain something - what you see above the HD 4890 vid card there is actually another vid card (a pciex16 HD 4350 card which I modded to be a pciex1 card). It has a passive cooler, but do you think its placement is detrimental to airflow/cooling in some way?
Edited by chieftex - 1/20/11 at 4:46pm
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Definitely get an aftermarket heatsink, the intel stock ones are junk. I'm not sure which heatsink to recommend since I'm only familiar with the line up for the 775 socket. Personally I'm a fan of xigmatex coolers but that's just my personal preference. As for sound what's your loudest component?
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At the moment the 4 case fans are the loudest, and they are competing with the vid card. I'm going to put my cheap fan controller back in though, which should lower the noise for the case fans, leaving the vid card as the loudest.
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They have aftermarket coolers for video cards too, again i'm not familiar with them but heres one that fits a 4890. You would have to make sure you have a reference card since most aftermarket coolers are designed for them.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=42234&...e=Thermalright
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Aftermarket heatcooler, what one you get depends on budget, also pick up some Gentle Typhoon AP-15 or Ap-14s for case fans, they're the quietest fans out there for performance. A secondary option is to water cool which will give u near complete silent computing and vastly lower temps. The Rasta RX-360 is a good starter kit if u have room for the rad.
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temp2 is probably chipset (NB)
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Will I need a new psu if I am to go for a newer ati card and overclock my cpu?
And why are my temps so much higher when the case is closed - or is this normal?
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I'd like to direct you to my most recent build, which uses the mATX version of your case.

However, since your components run a bit hotter than mine, I suggest adding a 120mm fan on the CPU cooler, and using this VGA cooler. The fans I used were Nexus Basic, which are very quiet while still moving a good amount of air.
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I love what you've done there, and your cable management is enviable! Why did you mount your cpu heatsink sideways though?

With all these fans and a fan controller, will my psu suffice?
Edited by chieftex - 1/23/11 at 10:02am
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I love what you've done there, and your cable management is enviable! Why did you mount your cpu heatsink sideways though?

With all these fans and a fan controller, will my psu suffice?


I installed it like that because it 'catches' the air better that way. It really all depends on your setup though.

And yes I don't forsee a problem with your PSU.
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