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Without reading too much into this thread, i can tell you that it is your case that is responsible for a lot of the noise and the heat as well.

I have had quite a lot of Antec cases, and even the P180/182 as well. They aren't really impressive, horrible build quality and the airflow is downright pathetic. Get a proper case with a proper airflow and you are all set. And fix those messy cables

Best of luck.
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Something for the sound...

You can use Speedfan to automatically varry the voltage on your fan headers. I will do this depending on current temps.

It makes your rig wicked quiet when it's idle, and can really ramp up the airflow only when needed.

Speedfan has a tutorial on their website.
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Sound = Get Better Fans (More Money)

Heat = Get an Aftermarket CPU Cooler (More Money)

All in all, it's a no brainer man, a simple call really..
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Originally Posted by Ultimatium View Post
Without reading too much into this thread, i can tell you that it is your case that is responsible for a lot of the noise and the heat as well.

I have had quite a lot of Antec cases, and even the P180/182 as well. They aren't really impressive, horrible build quality and the airflow is downright pathetic. Get a proper case with a proper airflow and you are all set. And fix those messy cables

Best of luck.
This is disappointing to hear! I thought it was quite the opposite. The cable management for the removable drive bays could use some work. Airflow I might have to agree with though.

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Something for the sound...

You can use Speedfan to automatically varry the voltage on your fan headers. I will do this depending on current temps.

It makes your rig wicked quiet when it's idle, and can really ramp up the airflow only when needed.

Speedfan has a tutorial on their website.
I used to use speedfan on my previous build. In this one, I can barely get it to do anything! Besides, it seems sys fans 3 and 4 don't have PWM on the motherboard, so I don't think they can be controlled via software. I hate this "feature".

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Sound = Get Better Fans (More Money)

Heat = Get an Aftermarket CPU Cooler (More Money)

All in all, it's a no brainer man, a simple call really..

Well the fans I'm going to attach to a fan controller, as I've had enough of buying fans! Cpu cooler I'm definitely getting though - probably the 212+ I heard good things about.

On that note, is there a way to connect a cpu fan to a fan controller? My fan controller seems to have 3 pins "sockets", whereas the cpu fan seems to have a 4 pin header.
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Don't overclock the CPU/GPU/RAM or anything else and the noise and heat will reduce.
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This is disappointing to hear! I thought it was quite the opposite. The cable management for the removable drive bays could use some work. Airflow I might have to agree with though.
As far as i am concerned, there are 3 fans in the P180/182, one on top, one on the front and one on the back. Not much for a proper airflow.

Basically it comes down to these three options:

a) Buy a better case with the availability to do some proper cable management (less cables means better airflow), and with a better airflow as well.

b) Keep the Antec P180/182 and exchange the stock CPU cooler with aftermarket cooling, the same goes for GFX,MOBO,RAM, whatever you are having heat issues with.

c) Exchange the Antec 120mm fans with some better ones from Noctua, CM, or another manufacture. Just make sure to pick one with a high RPM so you will move some air.
Edited by Ultimatium - 1/24/11 at 2:44pm
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As far as i am concerned, there are 3 fans in the P180/182, one on top, one on the front and one of the back. Not much for a proper airflow.
Are you kidding? Three fans in a P180 offer MUCH better airflow than you get with those fifty-fan, meshy cases. In those cases the air just wafts around, going in and out of the case aimlessly. Sure you end up with tons of airflow, but only a small fraction of it actually gets to any of the components. But with a case like this you can give yourself an actual stream of air if you plan it out properly, where it's used a lot more efficiently.
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Are you kidding? Three fans in a P180 offer MUCH better airflow than you get with those fifty-fan, meshy cases. In those cases the air just wafts around, going in and out of the case aimlessly. Sure you end up with tons of airflow, but only a small fraction of it actually gets to any of the components. But with a case like this you can give yourself an actual stream of air if you plan it out properly, where it's used a lot more efficiently.
That's not the experience that i had with the P180/182. When Nvidia launched their first shot on Fermi, i went out and got my hands on a single GTX 480. Just for the record, i decided to test mount it on my old P180. The result was that the GPU kept rising to around 96c, from there and above i ran into stability problems. My cable management on the P180 were identical to the OP's.

In contrast, the GTX 480 ran way cooler in the Silverstone TJ07. Just to summarize; the TJ07 is 4x120mm fans ( 2x top & 2x rear ) whereas the P180/182 is 1x120mm top and 1x120mm rear. My experience was a better airflow with the TJ07, hence my recommendation to upgrade for a better case. But then again the TJ07 is a bit more expensive than the P180.
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Well ok yeah, the TJ07 is a good case with good airflow, and it's better than the P18x series. I won't argue with that one . Just as long as you're not going to bring up the usual A900, HAF932, etc. Lots of fans is not the same as lots of airflow.

And I've had the complete opposite experience by the way, at least with the mini P180. I was able to passively cool an unlocked 555BE using two low speed yate loons (one on the front of the case and one on the back) and the top 200mm fan turned to low. And here's my girlfriend's passively cooled 545+GTS450, in the exact same setup. Yeah these don't quite put out the same heat as an i7-930 + GTX480, but they also wouldn't survive passively in a case with weak airflow.
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I appreciate the discussion fellows, but perhaps I should shed some more light on this. The case itself came with 3 Antec Tri-cool fans built in. I ditched these soon after as they are speed controlled by three individual switches, one of which is just loose inside the case (so stupid) and the other two are on the back of the case! To me that is pretty daft.

I removed all three antec fans, and replaced with 4 120mm fans. From the pics you might be able to see one at the top, one at the back, one at the front, and one right at the bottom in the middle (between the hdds and the psu). Three of these fans are Hiper case fans (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105137) and one of them (the back fan) is a Xilence Red Wing fan (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138586) which seems to have excellent reviews, 5 stars all round apparently.

Listen to what I plan on doing, and let me know your thoughts. I'm going to buy a HD 6950 vid card, as I've got the eyefinity bug and my rampant consumerism tells me I must have it! I will buy two more cheap 23 inch monitors. In addition I'll get a coolermaster cpu cooler, and I'll do some research on a vga cooler for the HD 6950 (suggestions welcome as always). I'll be overclocking my Sandy Bridge, and I fear that all these additions will be too taxing on my trusty Antec Neo HE 500w psu, so I might have to get another one.

After all of this, I will sell a kidney. Honestly, upgrading PC's is akin to having a drug habit.
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