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Originally Posted by enorbet2 View Post
It is not good (and maybe impossible for function) to have your Broadcast address = default Gateway = DNS
Actually that's very common to have happen with a router. As long as you can connect to the router, see other computers on the network, none of that is relevant information. I usually just make sure I can see the router's http setup, then I just make sure the router can see/address my modem (if they are the same just make sure it's pulling an outside IP).

To be honest, you'll want your gateway/DNS to be the same thing when dealing with the router. That means your queries are being pulled to your router which then transfers them to the outside world. Of course you can also leave this blank, forcing the router to manage DNS a bit different, but that's not far from putting in the router IP.

The best test would be to ping something in the outside world.

ping -c 4 209.85.225.104

That will ping google 4 times, if you can get that it's not DNS and a routing problem itself. Which then we don't even need to focus on those DNS numbers, we need to know gateway and subnet. Which both look fine, so that shouldn't be the problem. Which then leaves us to the broadcast, and I don't know much about wifi but I'm going to assume that it's fine because nobody else has mentioned anything crazy. If you can't ping the above, this leaves us then with situation of either your router/modem not pulling the proper IP, or a routing problem. I'm going to go back on my original statement and say it's a routing problem being caused by the WEP encryption. I'd still say try it with an open network, it'll take you 5 min, if you can pull up a site then you have your problem found.
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That Bcast addy is by no means cast in stone as a rule. The only rule for Broacast is that it be higher than any addy you want it to be able to broadcast to all inclusively. You could set BCast as 192.168.1.2 if you wanted but it would then only broadcast to two addresses, 0 and 1.

The gateway address can also be anything you want within the limits of how you've setup the network but SOP is that it should be the lowest, the exact opposite of Bcast.

I didn't mean to say that setting your router's Gateway as your DNS was wrong or wouldn't work, as it commonly does. The idea was to jump right to an external search rather than an internal one.

We still don't know exactly what OP is calling a modem.
It's simplest to use 192.168.1.255 if the gateway is 192.168.1.254. Can you use the same address? I don't know.
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ping -c 4 209.85.225.104
]PING 209.05.225.104 (209.5.225.104) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 209.05.225.104 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2999ms
Edited by 3dfxvoodoo - 1/21/11 at 1:05pm
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I take back the gateway statement, unless your gateway is the broadcast. I'm unclear about this because enorbet2 mentions that but then evermooingcow talks as if it's not mentioned. Which I'm unclear as to if it is, I thought it was and was thought to be ok. does the default route = gateway in this?

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my ip is 192.168.1.2
broadcast address 192.168.1.254
subnet mask 255.255.255.0
default route 192.168.1.254
primary DNS 192.168.1.254
If so that is probably an issue, but it would be much easier if we had an out put of iwconfig or ifconfig such as:

Code:
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 00:19:66:fd:60:52 
inet6 fe80::219:66ff:fefd:6052%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 
inet 173.18.215.75 netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 173.18.215.255
media: autoselect
status: active
Yeah that's from my hackintosh crap atm, so it's not exactly linux. =P But that would help for clarity. If the gateway is indeed fine, and you are pulling an IP then I'm going to stick with the above ^ stated. I'm guessing it's a problem with wep encryption either not encrypting or decrypting packets correctly, and this is a known issue with the current wep driver.

[edit]
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]PING 209.05.225.104 (209.5.225.104) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 209.05.225.104 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2999ms
After this we can throw out DNS bs, as no packets are being sent to the outside. This means it's a local issue, we need to find out why. If you have landlines that can connect through the router then we can pinpoint this directly to the wireless. If an open network does work, like I've been trying to say, it's going to be a WEP issue. We can then further bring this issue down.
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I take back the gateway statement, unless your gateway is the broadcast. I'm unclear about this because enorbet2 mentions that but then evermooingcow talks as if it's not mentioned. Which I'm unclear as to if it is, I thought it was and was thought to be ok. does the default route = gateway in this?



If so that is probably an issue, but it would be much easier if we had an out put of iwconfig or ifconfig such as:

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en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 00:19:66:fd:60:52 
inet6 fe80::219:66ff:fefd:6052%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 
inet 173.18.215.75 netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 173.18.215.255
media: autoselect
status: active
Yeah that's from my hackintosh crap atm, so it's not exactly linux. =P But that would help for clarity. If the gateway is indeed fine, and you are pulling an IP then I'm going to stick with the above ^ stated. I'm guessing it's a problem with wep encryption either not encrypting or decrypting packets correctly, and this is a known issue with the current wep driver.

[edit]


After this we can throw out DNS bs, as no packets are being sent to the outside. This means it's a local issue, we need to find out why. If you have landlines that can connect through the router then we can pinpoint this directly to the wireless. If an open network does work, like I've been trying to say, it's going to be a WEP issue. We can then further bring this issue down.

disabled wep still a no go


I going back to Ubuntu now
thanks for the help anyway
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Then it's pulling the wrong data. =( Can it ping other computer devices on the network?
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Havent got work offline ticked perhaps?
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That wouldn't effect pinging somewhere, or at least I'm not aware of a work offline mode that effects the whole OS.
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Offline mode does not affect ping.

Can you ping your Gateway? if not please try ping 127.0.0.1

If you can ping your gateway then it's probably some setting in your modem.

If you cannot then pinging 127.0.0.1 will tell us if it's a problem with your network driver.
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Offline mode does not affect ping.

Can you ping your Gateway? if not please try ping 127.0.0.1

If you can ping your gateway then it's probably some setting in your modem.

If you cannot then pinging 127.0.0.1 will tell us if it's a problem with your network driver.
That's my next guess. I'm guessing ubuntu loads a modified firmware, just a small guess. =P
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