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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
They claim it works but they can't explain how? ....hmmmm...
It's possible, not out of the ordinary in fact, but I doubt it. Would be amazing if they did, but I'm always a bit skeptical.
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These guys obviously read my latest how-to book. Specifically the chapter entitled "How to lose all scientific respect and credibility".
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I wonder if they are looking for investors.
Just cut me a check for half of what you were going to invest and Ill kick you in the nuts...you will come out ahead.
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Bologna has a very good university, I'm skeptical but not 100% trustless. Cold fusion would be like total win
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Rossi and Focardi’s paper on the nuclear reactor has been rejected by peer-reviewed journals, but the scientists aren’t discouraged. They published their paper in the Journal of Nuclear Physics, an online journal founded and run by themselves, which is obviously cause for a great deal of skepticism. They say their paper was rejected because they lack a theory for how the reaction works. According to a press release in Google translate, the scientists say they cannot explain how the cold fusion is triggered, “but the presence of copper and the release of energy are witnesses.”
The fact that Rossi and Focardi chose to reveal the reactor at a press conference, and the fact that their paper lacks details on how the reactor works, has made many people uncomfortable. The demonstration has not been widely covered by the general media. However, last Saturday, the day after the demonstration, the scientists answered questions in an online forum, which has generated a few blog posts.
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We have no proof to prove them wrong so ... until that is done and their device is properly examined, I can't take the liberty to call it a scam/fake/whatever.
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post #37 of 68
Lawl no.
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Cold fusion has been in around for decades. If anything, less attention is paid to it now than years ago.

Just because there are "signs of nuclear reactions taking place", why do these reactions have to be fusion?

Is there net gain from any of these experiments? Are any of these experiments peer reviewed or at least provide causation?

A non-repeatable experiment is not a valid basis for science.
"Science" is an extremely broad term; here, it is being misused.
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post #39 of 68
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Very sketchy indeed.
Why? Because they haven't pulled a theory out their asses that explains how the "fusion" process works?

If you think real hard, I'm sure you can think of many occasions throughout technological history where scientists serendipitously came upon discoveries/inventions that they could not explain--or that they explained incorrectly. Instead, at the time, the things just worked because... they just worked.

If a scientist is able to step back and honestly say "I just don't know how this works," then I'm more likely to trust them than someone else who pulls a theory out of the air in order to appease the editors of journals.
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We have no proof to prove them wrong so ... until that is done and their device is properly examined, I can't take the liberty to call it a scam/fake/whatever.
I usually take this as all the evidence I need to say they are either a scam, fake, incorrect, or are nowhere near close enough to finishing their experiment for anybody to give a flying rat's behind.

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Rossi and Focardi’s paper on the nuclear reactor has been rejected by peer-reviewed journals
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Reminds me of these clowns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn
Sounds like that company made something I have thought about making for years but have nowhere near the funding or background to make it.
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