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Hey all, I have a question regarding the xbox 360.
I have an elite, & it RROD on me a while ago.
I opened it up & just reapplied paste & it worked fine for a few months.
I just got it again last week. I ordered me the Talismoon whisper max.
It still RROD on me, so I will need more airflow.
I am just tired of opening it up so I will try to mod what I can while I'm at it.
I will lap the heatsink this weekend also.
I will try to cut out the back grill of the chassis for better airflow.
I will also keep both fans running, the stock & the Talismoon.
My question is, should I cut out the top case above where the GPU stands & place the fan there pushing air in or out?
Or should I just place the fan on the right side of the case where the grill is?

Any help & ideas is appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
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post #2 of 8
Um. This is not an airflow problem. RROD's are caused by solder points cracking. Have you heard of the towel trick (I wouldn't recommend it)? All the towel trick does is "reflow" that solder and make contact again. You need to rip that board out and get it worked on so that contact won't crack so easy. But, after, you should make sure you have good airflow to prevent it from happening again.
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post #3 of 8
the back is exhaust if im correct so you would need to be pushing air in.
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I would keep them as exhaust...I can see turning them around to be a problem.
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post #5 of 8
First off i gota say,pushing air in will not help,as the air you push in will not necessarily be directed at any off the heatsinks especially the one under the DVD drive that gets relly hot.

The Talismoon whisper fans are awesome i have them in mine and even after extreme gaming in warm conditions they still do more than an excellent job,even after 2 years of endless abuse.

I had my release date console RROD on me 2 years ago.
What i did was buy a RROD kit for a few £ of ebay then cleaned of the old TIM applied new and fixed the heat sinks down with new kit which to me was the most important as it replaced those shody excuse for clamps/bolts that microsoft installed,*** where they thinking when they designed them

Its the GPU heatsink(short one under DVD drive)that causes most problems as its not really adequate to remove the heat generated.

Yes towel trick works sometimes but its just a temp fix and id only do that if i was a scumbag and was going to sell the console on to somebody quickly before it broke again,but im not.

Id recommend you search for the shroud mods if your going to do any mods,shroud mod basically splits off the rear tunnel into left and right fans.

The left(gpu) heatsink is very small and creates more resistance drawing air over it so this means that usually a higher proprtion of air is usually drawn over the right(tall)heatsink,if you place a barrier along the inside of the tunnel/shroud then this at least dedicates a full fan to the left heatsink.

Further to this i also covered the top of the left heatsink with very thin plastic(card would do) to try and ensure all air is fully drawn over the whole of the left heatsink in a front to back motion instead of entering all along the heatsinks top.

I also used electrical tape to cover up any gaps between the shroud and heatsinks in an attempt to maximise air flow/suction over the heatsinks.

These mods i did where ones i found on the net 2 years ago on RJB Techs website,i just looked for the link to show you the Tutorial but the website is now unfortunately down.

Once you think about the size of the heatsink on the left hand side of the xbox you can work out why blowing in air from the right hand side of the xbox 360 will not really help.
If anything you should be looking at drawing out air from the back,but its not neccessary if you do the shroud mods.

Like i say my xbox 360 is used extremely heavily,its running most of the time as i use it under my living room tv with media centre for music/videos and i use sky player.

At weekends its completely hammered by my son and myself playing Cod Bops etc,often running for 16 hours+ in a day,so id say the mod works pretty well.

Some pics i found on the net to help show exactly what im taking about.






The pics are not mine,so all thanks obviously go to NeoRio over at:
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Thanks so much SuperJ, I will def try this tonight or tomorrow as I'm not feeling too well tonight.
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Thanks so much SuperJ, I will def try this tonight or tomorrow as I'm not feeling too well tonight.
No probs dude,hope it goes ok and like i say mines still going strong...its currently in the middle of a huuuuuuuge Cod Blackops massacre
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Hey man, thnx for the suggesstion. It worked like a charm.
The only thing I had to add to it was the fan for it to work.
So I just got another fan blowing air down directly into the air duct for the back fun to push it out. Havent messed up on me yet. *crosses fingers*

I have a question, the wire on the whisper flow nitro switch came loose. I didn't know it was so fragile. Is there anyway to make it work again? Not like I need it but would be nice to have working again.

Im assuming I have to resolder the wire to the base?

Thanks!
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