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"When they create their games, [Nintendo's designers] don't tell you how to play their game in order to achieve some kind of mythical reward."
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Achievement-skepticism is not a Nintendo-exclusive philosophy. Plenty of other people have wondered what the worth of Achievements is, how they affect the way we play games that contain them and, ultimately whether they are good or bad for games and gaming.
For further reading: http://kotaku.com/5740114/a-nintendo...t-achievements

I didn't really get into achievements until I started playing StarCraft II. After reading this, though, I can see how it changed the way I played that game.

Thoughts?
Edited by onoz - 1/21/11 at 2:04pm
 
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Statement retracted: See http://www.overclock.net/12100016-post101.html

Achievements are just extra tidbits for people to play for. It's a replay value thing. I know that "replay value" isn't in Nintendo's dictionary these days, but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.
Edited by X-Nine - 1/22/11 at 7:28am
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Who cares? Nintendo sucks balls anyway. They haven't made a decent console since the SNES, and they've left all those people who grew up with them with nothing but memories of great games never to be made again.

Achievements are just extra tidbits for people to play for. It's a replay value thing. I know that "replay value" isn't in Nintendo's dictionary these days, but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.
So you'd disagree with me if I said that all 3 Super Smash Bros. games have great replay value?
 
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I don't mind it; I like hunting for achievements in some games. Some of L4D2's achievements are fun to get and actually do improve some of your skills like reaction time and alertness.

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So you'd disagree with me if I said that all 3 Super Smash Bros. games have great replay value?
I sure as hell would. Back in teenybopper days (lol) N64 SSB was all there was to live for. Now SSB is meh... unlock all the characters and the game is done for.
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Who cares? Nintendo sucks balls anyway. They haven't made a decent console since the SNES, and they've left all those people who grew up with them with nothing but memories of great games never to be made again.

Achievements are just extra tidbits for people to play for. It's a replay value thing. I know that "replay value" isn't in Nintendo's dictionary these days, but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.
Hater much?

Anyways, I prefer VALVe's method for achievements where you can get extra stuff from doing them.
    
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Who cares? Nintendo sucks balls anyway. They haven't made a decent console since the SNES, and they've left all those people who grew up with them with nothing but memories of great games never to be made again.

Achievements are just extra tidbits for people to play for. It's a replay value thing. I know that "replay value" isn't in Nintendo's dictionary these days, but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.
Did your girlfriend leave you for a Gamecube or something?
    
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So you'd disagree with me if I said that all 3 Super Smash Bros. games have great replay value?
Most people on these forums don't play children games.
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Hater much?
Nope, just telling it how it is.

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Did your girlfriend leave you for a Gamecube or something?
Nope, my girlfriend gave me some lovin before I left for work this morning, thank you.

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Most people on these forums don't play children games.
^This.

If you can name 10 games individually on the N64, GC, and Wii each, that were phenomenal, I'll retract what I've said.

The problem is, you won't be able to do it. So... yeah.
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Nope, just telling it how it is.



Nope, my girlfriend gave me some lovin before I left for work this morning, thank you.



^This.

If you can name 10 games individually on the N64, GC, and Wii each, that were phenomenal, I'll retract what I've said.

The problem is, you won't be able to do it. So... yeah.
Phenomenal to who? To OCNers? Both you and xXjay247Xx have already said that OCNers in general don't play "children games" (which is a pretty sweeping statement, I might add), so is there any point? I could list any number of games that I want to, but as long as you "know" what makes a game childish and what doesn't, what would be point?


Oh, and why has this become a "hate Nintendo" thread?

On topic: Achievements!
Edited by onoz - 1/21/11 at 2:26pm
 
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I think the new donkey kong country is pretty cool. I always have people over for some Mario party action. kirbies epic yarn was childish but it was good fun also.
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