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Right, so is this the PSPhone thing?
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Android has written in java? and what about iOS?
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post
Okay?

It won't really have that much power since Android games aren't made using any really powerful language. You can't even execute C++ natively with a degree of power.

Seriously, that's the only thing I don't like from Android. The unability of using a powerful (enough) language to develop powerful (enough) apps.

And I'm an active Android user and newbie Android coder.

Umm... ok there.


I guess thats why Android trounces every other smartphone platform when it comes to speed right?

Personally I'm fed up with this whole "Its Java, so its slow" garbage. Java on Android is JIT compiled from 2.2 on, so its every bit as "native", and every bit as fast as that Objective-C garbage Apple uses. Windows Phone 7 uses C#, which is also a JIT compiled language, so no advantage there either.


With a dual-core Cortex A9 and an SGX543 gpu the phone is going to be 3-4 times as fast as any non-android phone on the market, so even if the language was an issue it would likely still be faster.
    
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With a dual-core Cortex A9 and an SGX543 gpu the phone is going to be 3-4 times as fast as any non-android phone on the market, so even if the language was an issue it would likely still be faster.
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how does the gpu compare to tegra2?
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Does anyone know when this phone is going to be released?

My contract is due for renewal in June and I don't see the point in upgrading to the iPhone 5 when my 3GS is good enough as it is. I was thinking about keeping my iPhone and investing in a new Android phone.

The problem is, the last Android phone I had was the G1 and that thing sucked to the high heavens. I've been waiting and hoping for a decent investment into the gaming platform for Android because at the moment it is more than lack luster compared to iOS but this phone could change all of that. By the sounds of it though, we will be waiting until at lease Q3 for this thing.
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With a dual-core Cortex A9 and an SGX543 gpu the phone is going to be 3-4 times as fast as any non-android phone on the market, so even if the language was an issue it would likely still be faster.
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how does the gpu compare to tegra2?
Wow you guys got me interested talking about phone processors and GPUs and such. How much RAM does a typical android phone have? What is the speed of the processor? Which ATi/Nvidia card is the GPU comparable to?
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Wow you guys got me interested talking about phone processors and GPUs and such. How much RAM does a typical android phone have? What is the speed of the processor? Which ATi/Nvidia card is the GPU comparable to?
The typical RAM is 512MB (as much as an Xbox 360/PS3 lol), although some of the new NVIDIA Tegra 2 phones will have 1GB.

Typical processor speeds are 1GHz (one or two cores), but for now they are in-order processors (ARM Cortex A9 will out-of-order though, I think) and hence slower than comparably clocked desktop processors.

The phone GPUs are not to be compared with desktop GPUs lest they kill themselves out of inadequacy, but you must remember that phones need to deal with a maximum power draw as low as 4-5W.

On topic, if the PSPhone indeed has a PowerVR SGX543 GPU, I will definitely upgrade from my Xperia X10. I was a bit disappointed with the Adreno 205 GPU rumour last time around.
Edited by jenesuispasbavard - 1/30/11 at 7:38am
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The Cortex A8 does 2k DMIPS at 1ghz
The Cortex A9 does 2.5k DMIPS at 1ghz due to its out of order executions, now times 2.5k by 2 (cores) and its at 5k DMIPS.
From what Ive read from ARM, its faster clock for clock because it has a shorter pipeline, and because of its out of order executions.

As of now, just because different manufactures uses the same CPU doesnt mean they all perform the same as a whole. There are many tweaks that the manufacturing company can do to the cpu to perform up to the specs the company wants. Such as the Samsung hummingbird and the Qualcomm snapdragon. Since the snapdragons are not built on reference designs from ARM (they are built from the ground up) Qualcomm can add certain features and instructions to make it better. Its noted that qualcomm design is 5-8% faster then the reference ARM design clock for clock. Samsung hummingbird is built on the reference design by ARM, but it is tweaked it to boost optimizations. Most noticible addition in the snapdragon (scorpion core) is that the FPU power is basically way more powerful then the Cortex A8 design all because of the NEON extension in the ARM design. The Scorpion is NEON set is built using 128bit instead of 64bit. This is why in Linpack, scorpion based cpu are basically dominating the charts.

I am itching for a more detailed spec sheet of the CPU in the Xperia Play. I wonder is its just a stock design, or whether sony did any customizations to the core. I know for the PSP2, they have to customize the core, only because knowing sony, they want more feature out of the cpu.

The SGX543mp4 should be, or will be faster then the Tegra 2 gpu.
Edited by RotaryKnight - 1/31/11 at 1:17am
    
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http://www.androidcentral.com/video-...-does-it-right

K Thx. (On the "not powerful enough platform")
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