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It will run everything fine. Stick with a quad core like you have and don't forget an optical drive. Also, I have that mobo and love it.
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I suggest you change this unless you would like a pile of ash for a computer when it blows up?
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Yeah, no, they don't, they are crap through and through



Screw the case, this is the least of your concerns, your budget doesn't really let you pick, get the cheapest you can and cut holes in it for fans.



No, no it doesn't. Low end watercooling will allow for a 4.2Ghz OC on a 920/30 and still keep you under 65. This won't do that. Hell an H50 won't let you go past 4Ghz and that's miles better than this. The CM 212 is still the best for your budget.




Don't bother, hardly any games utilise 4 cores let alone 6.



DO you really want our help, The memory is crap. It's not about CAS or speed, it's about the quality of the memory.

In short, all you've done is basically tell us we are wrong when it is infact you that are wrong. You've asked for advice and basically given us the finger. Take the advice we provide, act on it and you'll be happier in the long run.
I have far from given you the finger, by no means did i say in any way that your choices we crap, i merely gave a counter point- i do -not- deserve to be flamed for it, I also don't need to be treated like a child which you seem to be portraying; advice is given to be considered not to be taken blindly so i can end up with a wonky computer. If you're going to be rude then leave the thread and quit wasting your time, which you so obviously seem to see this as.


Also, the case is quite a concern, as I'm using an air cooling setup. 20 bucks more for CM and proper air dynamics is not a hefty price to pay. Shoot, i would take a beige POS case if the PSU was on the bottom and it had proper room, but they don't sell those.

As for the air vs. water cooling, my info is outdated- it was from reviews quite a while ago and i apologize for that.

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It will run everything fine. Stick with a quad core like you have and don't forget an optical drive. Also, I have that mobo and love it.
I have a billion optical drives =] no worries. I'm thinking of sticking with it but the lack of L3 has made me wobbly. Im currently trying to shove an X6 into the 600 price range with the same quality using more combo =] I'll post the results. I am getting somewhere =D

the 500 has indeed be switched to a TB so thanks for the suggestion =D
Edited by Reista - 1/23/11 at 12:18am
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Six cores for the price has no practial purpose. Your really won't see a difference in speed as it is not your bottleneck. Save the extra money and spend it on a different part of the computer.
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Go with a better PSU at a lower wattage. You don't need 730W (or whatever that unit can do), get an Antec Neo Eco 520W:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371030

And a Sapphire 6850:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102908

Grab an open box AM3 motherboard and pair it with the CPU you had. It'll save you some money if you get the same motherboard or allow you to get a better one.

Get this RAM, it overclocks pretty well, I got mine stable at 7-7-7-20 @ 1800:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231303

And people are right when they say the Hyper 212+ is better, this review shows it being about equal to a Prolimatech Megahalems, which is also one of the best air coolers out there.

Top it off with a trusty Antec 300 or CM 690 for better airflow.
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Go with a better PSU at a lower wattage. You don't need 730W (or whatever that unit can do), get an Antec Neo Eco 520W:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371030

And a Sapphire 6850:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102908

Grab an open box AM3 motherboard and pair it with the CPU you had. It'll save you some money if you get the same motherboard or allow you to get a better one.

Get this RAM, it overclocks pretty well, I got mine stable at 7-7-7-20 @ 1800:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231303

And people are right when they say the Hyper 212+ is better, this review shows it being about equal to a Prolimatech Megahalems, which is also one of the best air coolers out there.

Top it off with a trusty Antec 300 or CM 690 for better airflow.
M59>CM 690>Antec 300 as far as air current goes. Looks is a whole different game but hey, i can fix that

I was thinking i would need it larger if i got another GFX card later? Should i give up on that? I've already trained my eye to the 6850s =]

As for the cooler, I'm going to chill on upgrading that for the time being- I want to know if i'm really going to want it or not (i might not even want to OC too much! Oh my) so It'll be bought at a later date. Likely even water cooling! *yumm*

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Six cores for the price has no practial purpose. Your really won't see a difference in speed as it is not your bottleneck. Save the extra money and spend it on a different part of the computer.
I know that- it doesn't have much to do with the core #. the X4s don't have much meat on them as far as discounts because newegg isn't essentially lobbying for them. I've got a fresh batch of combos for you guys to chew at =D

CPU and GFX http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.589634

RAM and PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.578369

MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130290

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145304

CAS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146058

Subtotal: $629.93
Grand Total: $637.26

$37 over budget, but i get 4 gigs of RAM more, 2 cores more (with a sizable L3 cache, much better perf), slightly faster GPU, a more task-tailored mobo, and 500G more space. Oh, and Darksiders.

any issues with the setup? Inefficiencies?

Also- Thanks for the info for the 212- It'll be my choice next. The Core-Contact was the choice from a few years ago but if this is par with MH then what can i say?
Edited by Reista - 1/23/11 at 12:36am
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I know that- it doesn't have much to do with the core #. the X4s don't have much meat on them as far as discounts because newegg isn't essentially lobbying for them. I've got a fresh batch of combos for you guys to chew at =D

CPU and GFX http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.589634

RAM and PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.578369

MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130290

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145304

CAS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146058

Subtotal: $629.93
Grand Total: $637.26

$37 over budget, but i get 4 gigs of RAM more, 2 cores more (with a sizable L3 cache, much better perf), slightly faster GPU, a more task-tailored mobo, and 500G more space. Oh, and Darksiders.

any issues with the setup? Inefficiencies?

Also- Thanks for the info for the 212- It'll be my choice next. The Core-Contact was the choice from a few years ago but if this is par with MH then what can i say?
1.psu is junk
2.ram is junk
3.not gonna need 8 GB ram
4.not the best hdd for the price
5.not the best mobo for the price



x6 and 6850 is fine as long as u rly need 6 cores ?
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Go to this thread: http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-supplies.html

And pick a 500-600W unit with 2 6-pin PCI-e connectors. Please. Do not buy that PSU when you can get something better for cheaper.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1445/17/ (you would only need 400W for CFX 6850s- but then you overclock hence the 500-600.)

And if you're going to Crossfire, get a motherboard that does at least 8x/8x (16x/16x is better, but only 2-5% on high-end cards, so it probably won't make a difference) on the PCI-e lanes. The x4 lane will bottleneck the second card by a bit I think, mine as well avoid that problem.

Like this for example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...655R-_-Product
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1.psu is junk
2.ram is junk
3.not gonna need 8 GB ram
4.not the best hdd for the price
5.not the best mobo for the price



x6 and 6850 is fine as long as u rly need 6 cores ?
The HDD is The only reliable 1tb remotely around that range. What's wrong with the RAM? everywhere i looked had good reviews.

I'll switch out the mobo with 16/8 rails.

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Go to this thread: http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-supplies.html

And pick a 500-600W unit with 2 6-pin PCI-e connectors. Please. Do not buy that PSU when you can get something better for cheaper.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1445/17/ (you would only need 400W for CFX 6850s- but then you overclock hence the 500-600.)

And if you're going to Crossfire, get a motherboard that does at least 8x/8x (16x/16x is better, but only 2-5% on high-end cards, so it probably won't make a difference) on the PCI-e lanes. The x4 lane will bottleneck the second card by a bit I think, mine as well avoid that problem.

Like this for example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...655R-_-Product
doing so now. I've heard hell about RM PSUs but I've also heard they are lovely- I figured it was hit and miss *shrugs* Since so many red flags are going up with you guys mine is starting to sway =p
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