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Hi all, hope the day finds you well...ok I was working on a 7850be that was showing 4 cores 4 threads but only 2 were active and windows 7 wasn't updating the hardware either so I posted yesterday about it on a different thread and to no avail did I unlock it but I did manage to go from 2.8GHz to 3.4GHz with an alpine pro 64 cooler and a voltage jump to 1.4....today I went shopping and picked up a phenom II x 2 560 which btw has a stepping code for the 565 and posted at 3.4 in the bios for the first boot and then reverted to 3.3 so I think it was a pull at AMD to meet demand and they locked it to 3.3 or something...I'd have to find the link and post it to show you what I mean about the stepping code for the 565 that shows up on this chip, everything else for coding all points to the 560 except for that..but anyways this is about what I acheived with this chip...I also bought the artic cooler freezer 7 pro rev. 2 to go with it. Well first I worried about what kind of pony's this thing had before core unlock and am running a very stable 4.1GHz at 1.536volts and I think I could squeeze out a bit more if I put in the effort...haven't messed with HT yet because I don't quite understand that yet...I'm was born and raised intel and have recently converted to a the better product imo...AMD...now for the core unlock..it unlocked right away to a phenom II X4 B60 according to cpu-z and 2 cores had activity and 2 didn't so I thought I had 2 bad cores when I remembered reading an article about going backwards with the bios .. I run a MSI board a 785GT-E63 to be exact and version 7 for the bios....unlock option didn't match the book that came with the board...the book showed ec firmware instead of core unlock so I took a chance and flashed to the original bios that came with the release of this board and I'll be darned if as soon as I rebooted after setting ec firmware to special and acc to auto if I didn't end up with all 4 cores showing activity and running stable at the current overclocked settings that I have, so I'm very pleased with myself for not giving up and using my A+ certification to troubleshoot the problem until a solution was found and I am totally in love with this whole unlock core thing which I really didn't need the cores, it was just the challenge of doing it and being able to say ... yeah I did it and did it well. I don't remember where I read the post about going backwards with the bios to get the cores working but I'm sure glad I did and I'm AMD for life now

I do have one question though...I just bought last night a MSI 890FXA-GD70..how is this board for gaming, overclocking, and core unlocking...will I need to back date the bios again, can I unlock a quad to a 6 core with this board and was it worth the 144.00 I paid for it new on sale? It was a toss up between this board, the MSI Fuzion board or the ASROCK 890extreme4 board..I hope I picked the right one

Thanks anyone for help and I hope my unlock experience might help those that are having trouble with cores unlocking.

Cheers
Edited by penguingenius - 1/22/11 at 7:27am
    
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the 960 is a quad core.
it is not a dual core, i.e. phenom2 x2
it is a phenom2 x4.
sorry, and i do not believe there are any 6cores locked to a quad.
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This is true we have been working with different AMD cpu's for a month or so now, Penguin got a good price on this processor. It easily overclocked to 3.7Ghz then 4.0Ghz with ease and speed. Took him a while to finally get it fully unlocked as it was showing 4 cores from the start but only 2 active. I was off trying to get my 7750 BE to OC higher at a stable setting all the while Penguin yelling back at me to come sit in the living room while the cpu was OC'd. Was a sigh of relief and great satisfaction when Penguin finally truly unlocked all 4 cores to be fully active. Got a lesser Phenom II Callisto coming this next week that should be going into my build and if we see magic there as well I will be posting on it but this cpu is blazing fast and very stable overclocked from what I have seen. Wish my 7750 BE was more stable I might get a bit more enjoyment overclocking it.

Either way good stuff for him and I, we are on our way to unlocking the unlockable cores mystery behind a good bit of AMD BE cpu's.
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i've read posts where the acc function was causing problems with quads. i'm sorry but if it was showing only 2 cores active, it was probably the acc function causing problems.
a 960 IS a quad core. there are no cores to unlock
i tried editing my post before you had posted but was logged out somehow. had too much to remember retyping. lol@me

*edit* 1.5v is considered and recommended max voltage for air cooling
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my bad, I meant phenom II x2 560,,,,cpu tweaker threw me a bit as well as all the looking around at different processors, what I bought and unlocked is a 560, stepping code from a 565, initial boot was auto at 3.4, then reverted to 3.3 and unlocked to a phenom II x4......all in all very happy......just wanted to get it out there that I got nice overclocking with the chip and cooling combo and second that the unlock cpu on my msi board would not let the 2 xtra cores function but a revert to an older bios with ec firmware instead got it up and running stable with my overclocking settings with no problems, hangups, hickups, or flaking....sorry again guys....560 I meant not 960....been a long night
    
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I am sorry guys, I fixed the title processor number error as well as the errors in the post..again I apologize,,,part of being a noob I spose :-)
    
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I am sorry guys, I fixed the title processor number error as well as the errors in the post..again I apologize,,,part of being a noob I spose :-)
lol. we all make mistakes. just remember, you WILL make a million more.

we were all noobs at 1 time, even tator tot
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Nice!

I have been tinkering with a Phenom II x2 560 on an Asus M4N75TD. I tried every possible ACC setting and voltages but cannot get the cores to unlock. So I gave up and decided to overclock.

So far 20x multi @ 1.525v for 4ghz seems pretty stable, been through several burn in runs. Pushing past 4ghz gets me BSODs during the cpu torture tests.

What I wanted was a cheap 3+ ghz 4 core Phenom II and I did not get it with the 560. It may go on ebay at some point. But coming from a Phenom II x3 710 which would not stable unlock and maxxed out at 3ghz, there is certainly some speed difference that I notice.

I will say that I love, love, love the Asus Turbo V OC tool... the first windows based OC tool I've used that actually works. Easier than going into the BIOS and screwing around after every reboot. Since I only need to OC when gaming, nice to setup a speed profile for the CPU for a bump when I am playing. No need to burn extra volts surfing the web...

When the prices come down a bit (and my budget opens up some) I think an x4 955 or 965 and push it to 4ghz +. I would love a 6 core but they are not cheap, plus probably wasted for gaming.

On my backup system I got an Athlon X3 455 to easy unlock, wondering if the cache in the Phenom II's really makes a diff vs the Athlon's for everyday usage / games / etc.
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You're really going to want to lock those cores up again.
With an MSI board, 4+1 power phase (heatsinked or not), tower cooling and a 125W processor (unlocked x2 counts as 125W), you're putting your system and yourself in big danger.

Don't make me bring out the horror stories. I have a list that now has been updated to include as much as 40 horror stories involving MSI 4+1 boards blowing up on high-wattage processors.
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