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Not really sure why ARM would go with to be honest. I take it that maybe IBM has unused capacity for chip manufacture? After all looking at the size of their investment into fab tech you don't see a lot of IBM products floating around... comparing that to Intel, TSMC, Samsung and Global Foundries, which all have products flooding the market.

ARM themselves are just a licencing company, so does this mean that IBM is developing their own chips? Because that would be strange, given that they aren't so limited with regards to their instruction set. Does this mean that they are planning chips for consumer production and entering back into the PC market, courtesy of Microsofts plans for Windows? I would have though that if they were so keen to compete with Intel they would have purchased AMD a long time ago...
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Not really sure why ARM would go with to be honest. I take it that maybe IBM has unused capacity for chip manufacture? After all looking at the size of their investment into fab tech you don't see a lot of IBM products floating around... comparing that to Intel, TSMC, Samsung and Global Foundries, which all have products flooding the market.

ARM themselves are just a licencing company, so does this mean that IBM is developing their own chips? Because that would be strange, given that they aren't so limited with regards to their instruction set. Does this mean that they are planning chips for consumer production and entering back into the PC market, courtesy of Microsofts plans for Windows? I would have though that if they were so keen to compete with Intel they would have purchased AMD a long time ago...

IBM have a great history and a lot of money, they just don't want to get lost so they invest in something that will be the fuel for their company. They are a bit lost here, and ARM need the money.
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Now only if you knew that Intel came up with x86 and AMD with 64bit, and that AMD have the majority of the discrete GPU market. The reason why AMD can't 'realise' all their dreams was demonstrated clearly when Intel got slapped with billions in fines.

The one hope they have is that Win 8 will also run on ARM, which might be good for OEM's if IBM entered retail.
What made you think I didn't know the history of x86 and x64 architectures?

Why do you think AMD got bullied by Intel's anti-competitive measures in the first place? Perhaps because they were a much smaller company with little power and resources?

If IBM owned AMD back in the AMD64 days, do you think Intel stood a chance bribing Dell and HP behind IBM's back? (who's got one of the toughest leagal and patenting teams in this business)
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Nah they just offered products that was above lesser consumer standards.
They later bought Lenovo and made the Lenovo part make the consumer PCs instead of themselves.
IBM bought Lenovo? That's something new to me.

As far as I know, Lenovo is the one who bought IBM's consumer sector. I'm typing on a Thinkpad X61 right now, so I realize how good their quality is.
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Altho ARM may be small and can be powered by a 1000mah battery, the x86 is way more powerful.

An x86 CPU at 200Mhz will destroy an ARM at 2 or 3GHz.
If that was true, iOS, WP7 and Android would run like molasses, if anything, ARM is more powerful than x86, considering you get devices that are sub-1w beating my Athlon XP in mflops...

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If IBM joins the game, then we'll be singing "bye bye Mr.AMD"

Even Intel would be sweating quite a bit. With massive resources and a solid computing background, it'll be easy for IBM to simply purchase AMD, and realize all the dreams AMD simply can't do on its own.
Intel will be the one who is screwed over if ARM replaces x86 anywhere, Intel has the rights to dictate who makes x86 chips and therefore has two competitors (AMD and VIA), whereas with ARM, nVidia, Apples A4, AMD, Samsung, IBM, etc can all make chips.

Intel has a majority of CPUs due to x86 being the most used architecture (And because of their business morals being ridiculously low when they had the worse chip, then actually having the faster chip), they have the most graphics chips sold total because they have the majority of CPUs and in the laptop market, the mainstream laptops will always have an Intel IGP in it...I.e. It may have AMD or nVidia integrated but if its got H55 (eg. my laptop) or another integrated GPU chipset, whether or not its enabled that gets counted.

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Not really sure why ARM would go with to be honest. I take it that maybe IBM has unused capacity for chip manufacture? After all looking at the size of their investment into fab tech you don't see a lot of IBM products floating around... comparing that to Intel, TSMC, Samsung and Global Foundries, which all have products flooding the market.
When IBM does something, they do it well and innovate like crazy...Back when they made hard drives, most of the leaps forward came from IBM.
    
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Altho ARM may be small and can be powered by a 1000mah battery, the x86 is way more powerful.

An x86 CPU at 200Mhz will destroy an ARM at 2 or 3GHz.
a dual core Cortex A9 at 1.5ghz is faster then a atom single core at 1.6ghz, and only use 1.5-1.7watt of power. At 2ghz, it basically creams the atom and only use 1.9watt of power.
It seems petty to compare it to a atom, but beating it while using that much power is amazing.
Edited by RotaryKnight - 1/31/11 at 6:55pm
    
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