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I current have a: MS Wireless 4000 and it has been one of the only few mice that has fit my hands nicely. However, it just does not have the quality grade as "gaming" mice. The wireless is short, the left and right buttons accidentally impact each other, and I'm not a fan of the scroll. I'm looking for a mouse that has nearly identical dimensions but designed with a higher grade.

I'm thinking of the Razer Orochi as I used to be a fan of the Diamond Back which served its time well. However, I don't know if the mouse is just...too small? Also open to suggestions, but palm mice or claw grip only mice don't work so well with my hands. I'm looking for a hybrid, like the MS 4000.

Cheers on input!
post #2 of 17
So you're looking for a wireless mouse that is the same size as the MS Wireless 4000?
The Razer Orochi is wider, but slightly shorter in mm: 99(L) x 67.8(W) x 35(H)
MS Wireless 4000: 60.8mm (W) x 102.5mm (L)
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So you're looking for a wireless mouse that is the same size as the MS Wireless 4000?
The Razer Orochi is wider, but slightly shorter in mm: 99(L) x 67.8(W) x 35(H)
MS Wireless 4000: 60.8mm (W) x 102.5mm (L)
It doesn't necessarily need to be wireless. I might also use it with the laptop, but would more then likely just use the old MS mouse afterwards. But ya, a similar design and dimensions.

I do find the mouse (L) to just be the right size, but going shorter by 3.5 mm? I don't know if that would be right on the borderline of comfortable and not? The width increase is not too bad, but I wonder if the (H) is the same? Btw, where did you find these dimensions?

Open to other suggestions though.

Edit: My fingers are just right near the edge of the mouse. Right in the grooves of the mouse itself. So there is a bit of "shorter" finger placements on the mouse itself, so maybe the shorter length won't be too much of an issue.

A big problem of trying these mice out in-store is that although certain mice felt nice at the store, having them at home for awhile was a different story completely.
Edited by Domino - 1/22/11 at 3:14pm
post #4 of 17
I understand what you're looking for...I have a similar issue. With larger hands it's always hard to find a mouse that fits "just right".

I have the Microsoft Sidewinder...I have the original one... They have the new X variations of it, and I don't know how those are, but the one I have is awesome! it actually comes with different weights (which is good cuz I like a heavy mouse) different pads (cuz those do wear out) and a heavy box type thing that holds the cord down so it doesn't fall behind your desk or whatever... It's quite nice in build too. Feels very solid, very accurate, and very smooth.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-255-_-Product

this one is wireless, but still good
    
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Here are the dimensions of the Steelseries Xai:
Weight: 0.22 lbs (98 grams)
Height: 1.5 in (38.7 mm)
Width: 2.7 in (68.3 mm)
Length: 4.9 in (125.5 mm)
It's suited for claw/fingertip grips.
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post #6 of 17
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I understand what you're looking for...I have a similar issue. With larger hands it's always hard to find a mouse that fits "just right".

I have the Microsoft Sidewinder...I have the original one... They have the new X variations of it, and I don't know how those are, but the one I have is awesome! it actually comes with different weights (which is good cuz I like a heavy mouse) different pads (cuz those do wear out) and a heavy box type thing that holds the cord down so it doesn't fall behind your desk or whatever... It's quite nice in build too. Feels very solid, very accurate, and very smooth.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-255-_-Product

this one is wireless, but still good
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried the old one and it feels good, but just when my hand is idle. I couldn't use it to game.

I'm in a similar same boat but with smaller hands. Haha. Thanks for the suggestion!

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Here are the dimensions of the Steelseries Xai:
Weight: 0.22 lbs (98 grams)
Height: 1.5 in (38.7 mm)
Width: 2.7 in (68.3 mm)
Length: 4.9 in (125.5 mm)
It's suited for claw/fingertip grips.
I was suggested that one awhile ago actually. I eventually found it a few weeks ago and it was just too big for my tastes.
post #7 of 17
Maybe G9x.



Here is the G9x compared to other mice like the Xai, Abyssus and X8:


Edited by Riou - 1/23/11 at 6:03pm
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Razer Spectre
Dimensions: 100mm(L) * 66mm(W) * 37mm(H)
This comes close to your MS Wireless 4000 in length, slightly shorter by 2.5mm. Wider by 5.2mm. Uses the same sensor as the Razer Lachesis, Naga, Mamba, and Deathadder (3.5G sensor). Hope you don't run into problems with the Z-axis, but who knows unless you try.

OP wants a mouse that comes close to the length of the MS Wireless 4000, which is pretty hard to find for a gaming mouse.

Dimensions of Logitech G9x depending on interchangeable grip:
W: 79mm L: 105mm H: 36mm
W: 70mm L: 105mm H: 34mm

Are your hands really small and used to the mouse your using? Reminds me of the BK ad with the guy showing his tiny hands.
Edited by rpgman1 - 1/22/11 at 7:01pm
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post #9 of 17
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Maybe G9x.



Here is the G9x compared to other mice like the Xai:

Thanks for the suggestion. I was going to pick one up awhile ago but something just told me not to. Can't remember the reason.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rpgman1 View Post
Razer Spectre
Dimensions: 100mm(L) * 66mm(W) * 37mm(H)
This comes close to your MS Wireless 4000 in length, slightly shorter by 2.5mm. Wider by 5.2mm. Uses the same sensor as the Razer Lachesis, Naga, Mamba, and Deathadder (3.5G sensor). Hope you don't run into problems with the Z-axis, but who knows unless you try.

OP wants a mouse that comes close to the length of the MS Wireless 4000, which is pretty hard to find for a gaming mouse.

Dimensions of Logitech G9x depending on interchangeable grip:
W: 79mm L: 105mm H: 36mm
W: 70mm L: 105mm H: 34mm

Are your hands really small and used to the mouse your using? Reminds me of the BK ad with the guy showing his tiny hands.
What about the height of the specter? I thought it looked more flat? I love the palm feel of the MS 4000 as it is very relaxing. I also tend to play with a very low sensitivity (especially with FPS), so I will be raising the mouse quite a bit. The sensor isn't close to the diamondback is it?

I have...medium hands. A large palm and somewhat shorter fingers. Not short in the sense of radically smaller hands, just a larger palm compared to finger size.
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Just found the height of the Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 4000 around 39.37mm. The Razer Spectre is 37mm in height, so its the closest thing you get in size. I have large palms and long fingers. It's a toss-up between the G9x and Spectre, but people are being nit-picky about sensor problems on both.
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