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Hey guys, right now I'm looking into a WC kit for my CPU. The single biggest reason why I'm looking into it now is because of my video cards. They heat up my system and my CPU like crazy - more than what Prime95 does.

I have a 3.8GHz OC right now, and while playing BBC2, the temps can go as high as 64 degrees Celsius!!!!!! I don't like that at all, so I'm asking you guys to help me choose a water cooling kit that can keep my CPU cool to the point that it's no longer something that I have to worry about.

Currently, I'm willing to spend no more than $200 on a kit (excluding shipping), but if I have to, I'll save up for a little bit until I can afford one with a higher price. Other than that, I'm down for whatever.

One thing I want to let you guys know is that I don't know the slightest thing concerning water cooling kits. I don't know anything about setting them up, the maintenance, or anything of that sort. If you could tell me about that or point me to some threads that will help me learn about this stuff I would greatly appreciate that.

Oh yeah, btw, I live near a MicroCenter, a Fry's and a CompUSA. Do they carry any kits worth looking at?
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post #2 of 27
Northbridge cooling is pretty useless, I'd just leave it at stock.

You could cool just your CPU for $130 + Shipping, and you would get under 40C load easily (if not even lower).

Get the XSPS RS240 Kit for $130 + Shipping.
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Okay, cool. No NB is fine with me, especially if it cuts down big on price.

I'll look into that XSPS kit you posted there. Can you tell me what it's like maintaining a water cooling kit? How often do you have to worry about the maintenance for it?

Also, is there a radiator that has 140mm mounts? If not, it's not a big deal, but that would be very nice.
 
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Yea, you gotta water cool, 64C is way too high, don't go above 55c.
    
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Okay, cool. No NB is fine with me, especially if it cuts down big on price.

I'll look into that XSPS kit you posted there. Can you tell me what it's like maintaining a water cooling kit? How often do you have to worry about the maintenance for it?

Also, is there a radiator that has 140mm mounts? If not, it's not a big deal, but that would be very nice.
As long you used distilled water + PT_Nuke or silver kill coil you shouldn't have to do any maintenance other than keeping dust off the radiator. The 240mm radiator will mount to 140mm fans with a $5 adapter, or you could hang it off the back of the case.
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Originally Posted by TheRockMonsi View Post
Hey guys, right now I'm looking into a WC kit for my CPU. The single biggest reason why I'm looking into it now is because of my video cards. They heat up my system and my CPU like crazy - more than what Prime95 does.

I have a 3.8GHz OC right now, and while playing BBC2, the temps can go as high as 64 degrees Celsius!!!!!! I don't like that at all, so I'm asking you guys to help me choose a water cooling kit that can keep my CPU cool to the point that it's no longer something that I have to worry about.

Currently, I'm willing to spend no more than $200 on a kit (excluding shipping), but if I have to, I'll save up for a little bit until I can afford one with a higher price. Other than that, I'm down for whatever.

One thing I want to let you guys know is that I don't know the slightest thing concerning water cooling kits. I don't know anything about setting them up, the maintenance, or anything of that sort. If you could tell me about that or point me to some threads that will help me learn about this stuff I would greatly appreciate that.

Oh yeah, btw, I live near a MicroCenter, a Fry's and a CompUSA. Do they carry any kits worth looking at?
3.8 and hitting 64 while gaming, oi! Too high with whatever your cooling it with... 50-55 (no two temp sensors are alike) is getting close to heat soak and big temp spikes, really dont want to spend that much time in the red, good way to crap out your chip. Prime is good for a preliminary bench to see if your oc is stable, gaming (especially bfbc2 or crysis, hell even civ 5 on a huge map) will produce higher temps.

200 dollars I dunno, probably want to do some research, come up with a game plan, and where you want to be temp/oc wise.

Start with the stickies, most notably the newbie guides. As far as the retail vendors, probably not from a parts standpoint, though some may carry "a" token kit, just to say they have something.
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As long you used distilled water + PT_Nuke or silver kill coil you shouldn't have to do any maintenance other than keeping dust off the radiator. The 240mm radiator will mount to 140mm fans with a $5 adapter, or you could hang it off the back of the case.
Awesome, thanks for the info there. With it being a 240mm radiator, I'm going to go ahead and throw it at the top of my case.
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3.8 and hitting 64 while gaming, oi! Too high with whatever your cooling it with... 50-55 (no two temp sensors are alike) is getting close to heat soak and big temp spikes, really dont want to spend that much time in the red, good way to crap out your chip. Prime is good for a preliminary bench to see if your oc is stable, gaming (especially bfbc2 or crysis, hell even civ 5 on a huge map) will produce higher temps.

200 dollars I dunno, probably want to do some research, come up with a game plan, and where you want to be temp/oc wise.

Start with the stickies, most notably the newbie guides. As far as the retail vendors, probably not from a parts standpoint, though some may carry "a" token kit, just to say they have something.
Yeah, I know 64 is way too high, not how it was in the past though. Since I got my 480 things have changed, and now I think I'm in need of a new cooling solution for my CPU.

As far as how much I'm willing to spend, $200 is the max, but that doesn't mean I'm out to spend every cent of that. If I can satisfy my needs with $130 then that's great, but if not, $200 is as high as I'm willing to go at this point.

I've looked through some of the stickies, and they've helped a great deal, but they haven't answered all of my questions. Here are some that I'm still looking for an answer for:
  • What happens when I turn off my PC with a water cooling kit? Do I need to do anything special there?
  • How long can I leave my PC off with a WC kit installed? Does that matter? Is condensation not a concern here?
  • charliehorse55 stated that with distilled water and something like PT_Nuke, maintenance is not really necessary. Does that mean I don't have to change the water or anything like that every so often?
 
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I've looked through some of the stickies, and they've helped a great deal, but they haven't answered all of my questions. Here are some that I'm still looking for an answer for:
  • What happens when I turn off my PC with a water cooling kit? Do I need to do anything special there?
  • How long can I leave my PC off with a WC kit installed? Does that matter? Is condensation not a concern here?
  • charliehorse55 stated that with distilled water and something like PT_Nuke, maintenance is not really necessary. Does that mean I don't have to change the water or anything like that every so often?
No problems with turning your PC off/on, you don't have to do anything special. The pump simply turns off and the water stops circulating. I've already rebooted my computer about 15 times in the past hour working on my overclock so there definitely isn't a problem there.

No, condensation will only occur if you put the radiator into a location colder than the computer (IE, outside in Winter) or if you use a phase change/TEC unit to cool the water. I've left my computer off for 2 weeks while I was on vacation and no problems whatsoever.

You don't have to change the water, don't worry. Look at this thread, he's be running the same WC system with no maintenance for 2+ years without hassle.
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  • What happens when I turn off my PC with a water cooling kit? Do I need to do anything special there?
  • How long can I leave my PC off with a WC kit installed? Does that matter? Is condensation not a concern here?
  • charliehorse55 stated that with distilled water and something like PT_Nuke, maintenance is not really necessary. Does that mean I don't have to change the water or anything like that every so often?
Most if not all modern loops are driven off a dc 12v powered centrifugal pump that is connected to your psu by a typical molex connector that just about any other device would be powered off of, so, if you turn off you machine, the pump stops, so does the loop.

Off? If its clean, till the plumping breaks down I suppose. Not really, maintenance is a part of anything. Theres no condensation in a typical loop as the water is simply a mass vehicle for temperature convection, most typical wc loops are not actively cooled below the dew point, as such there is nothing to condense.

Nope, kill coils = .998ish silver strip, silver is used in humidifiers/water/water transport mediums and other water based systems to inhibit bacterial growth presumably by denaturing proteins in enzyme reactions. While nuke/biocides often work off the chlorine /ph method... though not quite as popular as the chlorine (depending on formulation/presentation) introduces ions that may promote certain types of corrosion.

Some folks say a year or more with a loop that was properly prepared, others that perhaps did not use as much cleanliness or care, couple days... hours... cleanliness is next to oc'iness, as it goes.
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Get the XSPS RS240 Kit for $130 + Shipping.
So, you guys sure this is my best bet within a $200 budget? If so, I'll look more into this and find out what kind of results I can expect from this kit.
 
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