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I just ordered one, the past few days they've been $69 w/ free shipping at the Egg.
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I still run an old (15 yo) mechanical. When I decide to type full blast, every key is noted. Playing bc2, I tend to hit 4 keys if not more due to custom mapping. The ability to move, crouch, push to talk, and reload. 5 keys easily.

I would love the looks and features of a nice USB board, but mechanical ftw
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post #23 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by thiru View Post
They don't have N key rollover.
the ultimate version doesn't have that either.. does it?
If so, I might have more than I thought I had
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Originally Posted by srsdude View Post
the ultimate version doesn't have that either.. does it?
If so, I might have more than I thought I had
No it doesn't.
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post #25 of 38
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Originally Posted by Phoenixlight View Post
While some of their membrane keyboards might not be great the black widow is a solid keyboard and there's a 4 key rollover without including the WASD keys not 2.
You need to count the minimum number of keys it can register at once, not a maximum... For example, ASZ and ASQ are common failures, or left right up on your arrows. The black widow is only a 2 key rollover, since there's at least one combo of 3 keys that doesn't work.

Really though, most gamers won't notice a difference. The vast majority of keyboards aren't n-key rollover, and people have been gaming on them for years. There are a few cases where it's useful, but it shouldn't be the dealbreaker that it seems to be around here.

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Originally Posted by RussianJ View Post
I still run an old (15 yo) mechanical. When I decide to type full blast, every key is noted. Playing bc2, I tend to hit 4 keys if not more due to custom mapping. The ability to move, crouch, push to talk, and reload. 5 keys easily.

I would love the looks and features of a nice USB board, but mechanical ftw
That's such a poor comparison. There are keyboards with 6 key rollover on usb, plus modifiers, which is easily enough for gaming. There are also old mechanical keyboards with only 2 key rollover on PS/2. There's even a few keyboards that claim to have full n-key rollover with USB, using a few various methods.
Edited by bakageta - 1/22/11 at 7:28pm
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post #26 of 38
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Originally Posted by thiru View Post
The Blackwidow is 2 key rollover, not 6. Which means if you press some combinations of 3 keys (such as z+x+c) it won't work. The WASD cluster is optimized so you won't probably encounter that problem there. But you will if you like to use the arrow cluster or another one. Or if you just type really fast.

Some games are played with both hands on the keyboard.
don't forget the arrow keys.

I use WASD + arrow keys to fly choppers in BC2, trying to use my BlackWidow for that is a nightmare which is why I gave it to my parents after I was done messing with it and stuck with my 6Gv2 and G80-3494 (of course I also vastly prefer the linear switches but still, even if the BW had cherry blacks or even reds it's 2KRO wouldn't have been acceptable).
Edited by bojinglebells - 1/22/11 at 7:55pm
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post #27 of 38
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So you guys are suggesting that the Razer Blackwidow is $30 cheaper because it doesn't have n-key rollover? Still doesn't add up to the fact that it is so much cheaper than say, a Das Ultimate. Unless of course the n-key rollover is valued for that much money.
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post #28 of 38
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So you guys are suggesting that the Razer Blackwidow is $30 cheaper because it doesn't have n-key rollover? Still doesn't add up to the fact that it is so much cheaper than say, a Das Ultimate. Unless of course the n-key rollover is valued for that much money.
No it's not worth much in terms of materials, you just add a bunch of diodes.
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post #29 of 38
The Steelseries 6Gv2 is $79.99 after coupon code EG01EX. Of course, you still have to pay shipping, but it is a great gaming mechanical keyboard. Just don't expect to type well on it. I would go for this over the Black Widow because it supports NKRO over PS/2.
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post #30 of 38
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Originally Posted by bojinglebells View Post
don't forget the arrow keys.

I use WASD + arrow keys to fly choppers in BC2, trying to use my BlackWidow for that is a nightmare which is why I gave it to my parents after I was done messing with it and stuck with my 6Gv2 and G80-3494 (of course I also vastly prefer the linear switches but still, even if the BW had cherry blacks or even reds it's 2KRO wouldn't have been acceptable).
this is about the only use i would have for a mechanical keyboard. is for flying a chopper in games like gta iv. most other games dont require anything like this. especially first person shooters.

razor is by no means the best keyboard function wise, but they sure do look nice. i love my lycosa.
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