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ok i got 10k IP what should i do frown.gif
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I very rarely do draft pick. Takes the fun out of the game for me. At that point it's just who can make the better 5 person team rather than build a team with the champs you like and go from there. Plus not only that, but it's not as much fun doing full supports in draft because the other team can see you doing it biggrin.gif
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Hey OCN, been following the thread for awhile but only recently got my computer put back together so I figured I'd drop in and say what's up.
Been playing solo q's lately and getting pretty tired of it so if any of you guys are looking for someone to play with hit me up, IGN is Zamereon. I play enough champs to fill whatever role is needed, but lately it's been Volibear, Hecarim, Draven, and Ahri.
I will have to disagree with you on this one. If you play Shaco well early, you will be the most important person on your team come end game. After a team fight commences and you stealth to the enemy carry and kill them before they can react, well guess what the other team loses then. I used to play Shaco religiously so I know quite a few tricks for forcing people to be where I want them to smile.gif

You NEED those early kills to be even the least bit useful late game, and if you play people who know what they're doing they'll know when to expect you and you won't get those kills. Shaco is a very predictable jungler, and is easily counter jungled/avoided in lane if you're the least bit competent. THAT is why he is useless late game probably 80% of the time, in my experience, even playing with people who claim to play him a lot. And I would still never consider him the most important player late game, regardless of how well he's done all game.

Edit: In blind pick he is fairly easy to pub stomp with, so in that arena he's good enough. Just hit or miss if you face competent people then who plan to make you useless.
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Shaco is a very predictable jungler, and is easily counter jungled/avoided in lane if you're the least bit competent. THAT is why he is useless late game probably 80% of the time, in my experience, even playing with people who claim to play him a lot.

Yeah, I pretty much stopped trying to play shaco because the enemy team will just last hit under their tower to prevent me from ganking them.

Me: hey everyone stop pushing so hard so they have to come out from under tower and I can gank them. Team: STHU newb. I making them miss cs to tower (I look at cs count and they might be 10 or so up). You are worst shaco ever. *enemy jungler successfully ganks lane every attempt* Team: WTH shaco, why you no gank for me! Their jungler ganking... Me: Do you want me to tower dive them at full life? I'm not an alistar.... Team: Lrn2play gg report shaco
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Honestly I prefer taking Shaco into the lane lol. I will usually steal enemy's red or set up gank by wraiths if the enemy doesn't check it, and then I will head to lane. I agree with you completely that he's not a scary jungler and is easily predictable but his damage early on can be quite high and nobody expects him in the lane. I can usually get a couple kills early on and after I get sheen/triforce I can destroy the enemy carry.
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If shaco doesn't get a successful gank early game, it's GG
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If shaco doesn't get a successful gank early game, it's GG
it goes for everyone. early game is most important.
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it goes for everyone. early game is most important.

Top lane can snowball simply through CS. The ADC bot can be the same way if ganks aren't successful, kills just snowball them harder. Junglers are the only ones who really depend on kills, but some can simply go GP5s to supplement their lack of kills although the GP5 nerf is going to hurt.
    
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Hi OCN!
I've been playing LoL for two weeks by now on EU West. The game is incredibly addictive thumb.gif
After getting to grips with the basics through vs. AI (beginner/intermediate), I familiarized myself with last-hitting and recently started doing PvP.

Champions I'm experienced with: Ashe, Morgana, Alistar, Kayle.

I would like to get better and experience friendly players (seriously, the amount of trash talk in most games is horrible). So I hope to see you guys in game and read useful information in this thread.

- SybrGold
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it goes for everyone. early game is most important.

Yea but other champions you can catch up if you don't get any successful games, but Shaco NEEDS a gank or he will be really useless
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