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If you're playing support to learn it, bad AD carries can teach you more than good ones. Teaches you how to save people as they'll need it quite often tongue.gif
Unfortunately you'll never climb very high in elo playing support, no matter how good you are, unless you get lucky and have a good team. Need to play characters that carry, sometimes just gotta get mean and force your role mad.gif

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Could anyone recommend some champions for me? Here is what I am looking for:

A mage built only on AP items that isn't regular attack based at all. Spells should do pretty much all damage. Also, I would love one stun spell (like Brand's Q, Morgana's Q, or Veigar's E). I also need one good AoE spell (Morgana's W, Veigar's W, Brand's W). I play extremely defensively, and very rarely approach targets before they approach me (hence why I like stun abilities).

As mentioned, champions I enjoy very much are Brand, Morgana, and Veigar. Ryze was meh, I didn't quite like that you MUST use his ultimate just to get AoE. I also love Veiger because his E is extremely useful, probably the best stun skill for team fights. His ultimate is also extremely good against AP champions. Morgana is my main though, as I find she is easy to learn how to play and with Q>W>R combo you can take out champions in a few seconds.
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I actually find myself liking Vladimir a lot more than other AP carries, just because of his high sustain and godlike ultimate. But I rarely get to play him ranked because mid, top and jungle are always the first lanes to be shouted out and since I'm not a mean enough, I let them have them. Ofcourse they end up feeding because they get countered because they first picked mid or top. tongue.gif
But I quite like support now, unless I get an awfull AD carry. frown.gif

Only problem I have with vlad is, I don't know when to use the ultimate frown.gif
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Only problem I have with vlad is, I don't know when to use the ultimate frown.gif

As you or your team engages smile.gif
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Enough with your knobgobblery

Who doesn't love to gobble some knob? tongue.gif

Edit: Although I don't know whose knob I'm gobblin', so I guess it's time to play "Who's in my mouth?"
Edited by Crunkles - 7/27/12 at 11:58am
    
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Could anyone recommend some champions for me? Here is what I am looking for:
A mage built only on AP items that isn't regular attack based at all. Spells should do pretty much all damage. Also, I would love one stun spell (like Brand's Q, Morgana's Q, or Veigar's E). I also need one good AoE spell (Morgana's W, Veigar's W, Brand's W). I play extremely defensively, and very rarely approach targets before they approach me (hence why I like stun abilities).
As mentioned, champions I enjoy very much are Brand, Morgana, and Veigar. Ryze was meh, I didn't quite like that you MUST use his ultimate just to get AoE. I also love Veiger because his E is extremely useful, probably the best stun skill for team fights. His ultimate is also extremely good against AP champions. Morgana is my main though, as I find she is easy to learn how to play and with Q>W>R combo you can take out champions in a few seconds.

Based on your list of champs I would recommend either Annie or Cassiopeia. Cass's stun only works when the enemy is facing her (slows otherwise) and the rest of her abilities are all damaging. Annie's stun is based on the number of spells she casts, but she has a high burst. If you have a pretty high skill cap and want to risk it, Anivia has always been one of my favorite mages. She's hard to get good with but is devastating once you can play her.

A couple other possibilities would be Xerath, Kennen, and Viktor.
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Could anyone recommend some champions for me? Here is what I am looking for:
A mage built only on AP items that isn't regular attack based at all. Spells should do pretty much all damage. Also, I would love one stun spell (like Brand's Q, Morgana's Q, or Veigar's E). I also need one good AoE spell (Morgana's W, Veigar's W, Brand's W). I play extremely defensively, and very rarely approach targets before they approach me (hence why I like stun abilities).

You pretty much described anivia, but she is very tough to learn and will take a lot of practice to get good with her. If you can master her, she will treat you well.

Also, there is kennen and annie. Kennen's stun isn't as simple as clicking one skill though. With both of those champs, you might have to learn to be more aggressive to play with them.

Side note: Morgana is a LOT more fun to play if you are very aggressive (depending on who you are against) biggrin.gif.
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You pretty much described anivia, but she is very tough to learn and will take a lot of practice to get good with her. If you can master her, she will treat you well.
Also, there is kennen and annie. Kennen's stun isn't as simple as clicking one skill though. With both of those champs, you might have to learn to be more aggressive to play with them.
Side note: Morgana is a LOT more fun to play if you are very aggressive (depending on who you are against) biggrin.gif.
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Based on your list of champs I would recommend either Annie or Cassiopeia. Cass's stun only works when the enemy is facing her (slows otherwise) and the rest of her abilities are all damaging. Annie's stun is based on the number of spells she casts, but she has a high burst. If you have a pretty high skill cap and want to risk it, Anivia has always been one of my favorite mages. She's hard to get good with but is devastating once you can play her.
A couple other possibilities would be Xerath, Kennen, and Viktor.

Cass and Viktor are strong but require you to get within CC range to do dmg, putting you at risk in every team fight. Annie's AoE before 6 is her conal which is fairly small and close range. Kennen's only AoE is his ultimate. Xerath's AoE is his ult and it's rather small for an ult, I also find he is really just a poke champ and not really any burst.

I'd say the only one's you guys mentioned truly fitting his desire is Anivia, and she is worth playing a bunch to learn her. I'd also recommend Vladimir, Orianna, Lux, Gragas and possibly Zyra for champs with AoEs and CC.
    
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Kennen's only AoE is his ultimate. I'd say the only one's you guys mentioned truly fitting his desire is Anivia, and she is worth playing a bunch to learn her. I'd also recommend Vladimir, Orianna, Lux, Gragas and possibly Zyra for champs with AoEs and CC.

Kennen has "two" other aoe abilities not counting Ult. It's just that you have to turn into a ball of lightning (using lightning rush) and everyone he touches takes damage. His other aoe ability only hits people with a mark of storm on them tongue.gif. But, you are right. Kennen probably wouldn't be a good champ for him if he wasn't willing to lightning rush at someone.

How could I forget Lux! I guess I was focusing too much on champs that had a stun and not snares.
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She's a AP Jungler!
About time!
Red confirmed: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=27443293#27443293

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I love Akali.
I had loads more CS than brand did, by the time I went back I had about 1700 gold so on my first back I got sheen and null-magic. After that I had so much burst that any time Malphite showed on the map it was time to kill brand, then malphite couldn't gank other lanes because he had to come hold mid.
They quit after they started a 4v2 fight and I jumped in over the wall to get a quadrakill. biggrin.gif

I haven't played her in a while because I feel like a jerk if I call mid and I'd feel worse if I lost my lane after doing it, usually I end up jungling or supporting and I'm not a great jungler. Udyr fail ganks ftw. tongue.gif
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