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Can I get come champion recommendations if I mainly play these champions: Morgana, Veigar, Brand, and Cho'gath.
I like killing my opponents from long range. Large AoE attacks from far are great, stunning, hindering movement, or knocking into the air is also great. Basically I want to stay as far as possible from my opponent while I hit them with stuns or knock-ups, and attack from a distance, while someone else in my lane like Yi, Riven, Akali, Irelia, etc does most of the damage. I also lurv killing minions.
I also enjoy mid-laning alone. Especially with veigar.
Recommendations?
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I like Cho'gath, but I don't like playing as tanks, since I prefer staying far away from the enemy. Instead of going with a tanky build, like RoA, glacial shroud, Abyssal Scepter, etc, would it work if I go all out AP by going 2x Doran Ring > Sorc Shoes > Kage's Lucky Pick > Deathcap > Deathfire/Morello > Void Staff, or something like that? I'd essentially play him the same way I do Veigar and Morgana.

Lux, Kennen, Vladimir, Ahri, Karthus, Twisted Fate, Anivia, AP Janna, Galio, Gragas, Annie, AP Ezrael, AP Nidalee, Orianna, AP Soraka, Viktor, Fiddlesticks, Xerath, Ziggs, Zyra. I named close to all AP champs, but left those out that require you to be very close to do the bulk of your damage.

In regards to your Cho question- yes. You can go AP Cho, I used to do it before they made his buff and found it very enjoyable. But your build isn't really efficient. I would do something along the lines of: boots + 1HP pot, 2 Mana pots > Kage Pick (if you're doing very well and don't feel threatened, skip if you're not) > Catalyst > RoA > Deathcap > Abyssal/Athene's/Void staff/Deathfire

Every build is situational, based on your opponents, how you're doing, and how your team is doing. Your initial items should almost always benefit you in the laning phase. If you want to get good with a champ, try all different types of builds, masteries, and rune pages all different champs and you'll get better at picking items without following a guide.

On that note I'm planning to play Cho and only Cho no matter what role I have to play for a while, and may try to write up a guide after if I feel my efforts actually came to fruition.
    
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you can try using zyra... my gf plays her and eats kids alive. Her vines are strong her plant does some nice dmg and dat ult.
also try ziggs or heimer

I hate saying this as I love Heimer, but Zyra is the new Heimer with actual usefulness. Rylai's on Zyra makes her Heimer with ult up 100% of the time, whereas Rylai's on Heimer makes his ult useless except to give them their HP back before they die.
    
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Can I get come champion recommendations if I mainly play these champions: Morgana, Veigar, Brand, and Cho'gath.
I like killing my opponents from long range. Large AoE attacks from far are great, stunning, hindering movement, or knocking into the air is also great. Basically I want to stay as far as possible from my opponent while I hit them with stuns or knock-ups, and attack from a distance, while someone else in my lane like Yi, Riven, Akali, Irelia, etc does most of the damage. I also lurv killing minions.
I also enjoy mid-laning alone. Especially with veigar.
Recommendations?

You know what I'd recommend? Dont play any champions like those ones. I think its a lot more fun to play if you can play all roles and all champions, and you will get a better understanding of the game, and therefor be a better player overall aswell. Me and a buddy spend a week or two playing the roles and champions we were bad at, and that way, combined with watching a lot of streams, I learned to play every role, and I can now play at least 80% of the champions in the game pretty decent. Of course its okey to focus more on one role and a few champions, I mostly play jungler and no so much AP mid, but I still think that being a great all-round player, is better than being an exceptional one trick pony. BTW standing behind and CCing while other people do the damage up front, sounds like you might enjoy supporting. Janna, Blitzcrank, Alistar, Nautilus. Give those a try. But note, for it to be fun to play a support, you have to make things happen yourself and be aggressive and active, and not just wait for your AD carry to do everything and shield/heal him once in a while.
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You know what I'd recommend? Dont play any champions like those ones. I think its a lot more fun to play if you can play all roles and all champions, and you will get a better understanding of the game, and therefor be a better player overall aswell. Me and a buddy spend a week or two playing the roles and champions we were bad at, and that way, combined with watching a lot of streams, I learned to play every role, and I can now play at least 80% of the champions in the game pretty decent. Of course its okey to focus more on one role and a few champions, I mostly play jungler and no so much AP mid, but I still think that being a great all-round player, is better than being an exceptional one trick pony. BTW standing behind and CCing while other people do the damage up front, sounds like you might enjoy supporting. Janna, Blitzcrank, Alistar, Nautilus. Give those a try. But note, for it to be fun to play a support, you have to make things happen yourself and be aggressive and active, and not just wait for your AD carry to do everything and shield/heal him once in a while.

Took your advice. Tried to find the exact opposite of what I was looking for. You know what? It was a good idea!

Played as Hecarim first. Even though he was close range, I found him fun to play. His charge attack (Q?) was great for luring enemies in, and then spamming W and E. His ulti was also fantastic for ganking.

Then I tried Garen. I didn't like him as much as Hecarim though, but he was still fun to play. I turned him into a tank and found his W amazing for tanking. I died a lot in team fights but found that everyone targeted me first for some reason, so I took a LOT of damage while my teammates focused on everyone else.

Going to try Varus next, he seems interesting. Then maybe Ashe.
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I hate saying this as I love Heimer, but Zyra is the new Heimer with actual usefulness. Rylai's on Zyra makes her Heimer with ult up 100% of the time, whereas Rylai's on Heimer makes his ult useless except to give them their HP back before they die.

yea i agree a propley played and build zyra is heimer with always on ult and super strong cc. I love it when my bro plays fiddles i play galio and my gf plays her XD its so trolltastic. Im honestley surprised i dont see mroe people playing her tho.

we tried for liek a week with my friends to set this up
baron gank----

enemy team goes into baron.... alistar sits on outside in bush to headbut flashers back into it, volibear throws runners back in, zyra ults it, fiddles ults in, galio ults in... gg pentakill fiddles
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yea i agree a propley played and build zyra is heimer with always on ult and super strong cc. I love it when my bro plays fiddles i play galio and my gf plays her XD its so trolltastic. Im honestley surprised i dont see mroe people playing her tho.
we tried for liek a week with my friends to set this up
baron gank----
enemy team goes into baron.... alistar sits on outside in bush to headbut flashers back into it, volibear throws runners back in, zyra ults it, fiddles ults in, galio ults in... gg pentakill fiddles

A lot of people don't play her because she has a high skill cap to get the most out of her. People don't like change, and question new things unless the champ is easy and OP.

As a side note and somewhat related, my last 7 normal games on Cho have been wins. This includes a game as jungle, 3 as top, 3 as support. Only one of the ADCs questioned me on Cho support, then we proceeded to destroy our opponents. My favorite lane partner so far in bot as Cho has been Cait, so funny. We were 5/0 and took the tower by 10 mins. So far the Cho marathon is a success, and if I want to play another champ I just ARAM. But if normal, CHO ONRY!
    
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But if normal, CHO ONRY!

I see what you did there... upsidedwnsmiley.gif
 
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I see what you did there... upsidedwnsmiley.gif

O reary? No wai!

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