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Thornmail = worst item in the game, /endofstory.
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Doran < Thornmail tongue.gif
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Thornmail = worst item in the game, /endofstory.
I either do 7 Armor pen & 2 AD marks, 9 armor seals, 9 mr glyphs and 3 AD quints, or I just use 9 AD marks.

What about in proving grounds against a mostly AD team? tongue.gif I think they should fix thornmail by it reflecting back true damage instead of magic damage but (maybe) lower some of the % of damage it reflects back. Just a little MR and lifesteal make thornmail an expensive 100 def.
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Katarina's problem wasn't CC, it was bruisers.

Basically, they don't die in teamfights quickly enough for you to get your CDs reset. Yes, a team with a ton of CC is a problem, but you can get 6 or more shunpos, and bouncing blades, and two ulties in one teamfight if people die quickly enough.
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Thornmail = worst item in the game, /endofstory.
I either do 7 Armor pen & 2 AD marks, 9 armor seals, 9 mr glyphs and 3 AD quints, or I just use 9 AD marks.

Not at all lol. Have you seen the majority of players? They never build MR or AR. Love watching an AD carry kill themselves on me, they always cry in /all

Btw LOVE the new patch! Garen is a monster again. Having too much fun with him in top lane. Shut down a teemo and darius last night. He dives so well now, have a feeling they might nerf his ult again as while the CD is long at rank 1 it is almost always ready for a fight at rank 3. Was worried about his judgement with the damage nerf, but get some crit chance and it does far more damage than it used to. Not sure how I feel on Kat though, will need play her more. AA bug is still present though and it is pissing me off. Riot seriously needs to fix this ASAP!

Edit : @Zackcy : They can be a pain, but if you have enough mpen and just go straight AP (not hybrid like too many Kats do) they just melt with her short CD's. Before the rework I would train a bruiser while bursting down a squishy that gets too close using gunblade + scepter to keep the bruiser under control. They usualy don't live through 2 ults which is easily possible if you time your shots right. Gunblade, scepter, hat, LB will end with most squishys being 2 shot and give you enough vamp/life steal to stay ahead of the bruiser. Tripple kill shunpo ftw lol.

Btw if any newbies want some help with learning some champs or basic strats feel free to shoot me a friend request. Just give me a heads up in a PM with your name so I dont decline you as a random person lol. I have played just about every champion, can do well with most and get by with the rest but have a general knowledge of all champs.
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lol I think I found my new runes for Xin... Flat armor seals, MR/lvl glyphs and ARP marks and quints. Dealing true damage at the beginning, killed their top and jungler twice in a row <3
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Originally Posted by Myrtl View Post

What about in proving grounds against a mostly AD team? tongue.gif I think they should fix thornmail by it reflecting back true damage instead of magic damage but (maybe) lower some of the % of damage it reflects back. Just a little MR and lifesteal make thornmail an expensive 100 def.

The only time thornmail is viable is when both sides are completely AD damage. The passive damage reflected by thornmail is magic damage, and with at least 1 or 2 strong AP champs on a team people build MR. This in turn reduces its damage and provides little affect. You can also get a Frozen Heart which provides 1 less Armor, CDR, AS down aura, and mana or you can get a Randuin's Omen which gives ~25 less armor but provides HP, an active AS down aura, hp regen, and is made with a gp10.
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Not at all lol. Have you seen the majority of players? They never build MR or AR. Love watching an AD carry kill themselves on me, they always cry in /all

Just because people are dumb doesn't mean it's a good item, it is still trash in comparison to other item possibilities but in troll games it's fun tongue.gif
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Doran < Thornmail tongue.gif

Doran's items far surpass thornmail in that they can be purchased at the start, stacked, and provide useful and powerful stats at early levels. Doran's are also starting items, not completed items. I know you were just making a joke but I would still buy a couple doran's over a thornmail any day. I just consider it a terrible waste of gold, there are for more useful options.
    
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Doran < Thornmail tongue.gif

Does Thornmail help you early game ??
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so how do i get better at this game?
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so how do i get better at this game?
The only tip I got from my friend when I started was "relax, take it easy".
Basically use the thing called common sense and read about all the champs so that you know what they'll throw at you.
2 things and 2 things only will make you a master: Practice and Patience.
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Who wants to play with me?

Catch me up on stuff. I haven't played
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