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when is the meta going to change ? or is it not?

Well, it always changes. What exactly are you thinking about? Champions? Team comps? Lane comps?
 
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Yorick
WW
Vlad
Jayce
Morde
Poppy even does decent, but lacks in the push
Nid is good if you push a lot
To counter shen, you either push insanely hard and make him pay for it if he uses his ult (in these cases you have to run tele) or you beat the tar out of him in lane so he is worthless late
Singed is actually pretty strong, I'm expecting to see him played more, especially more AP than tank (still tank, but less of it).

Nocturne. Shroud of Darkness blocks his ulti and he can't run from an exhaust, unspeakable horror and duskbringer's movement boost. Even if he manages to slip away you have paranoia and another duskbringer and unspeakable horror.
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there's a reason why shen, malphite, amumu, and alistar are banned nearly every game

Everytime I play Shen, I do extremely well. Carries get outcarried. We always lose. Same with Malphite.
With Amumu, it feels like I'm in total control of my own destiny. It's like the only way we lose is if my team blatantly throws the game.
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Amumu is one of the scariest ganker atm, It's a shame that he is so dependent on blue buff.
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Well, it always changes. What exactly are you thinking about? Champions? Team comps? Lane comps?

I wouldn't say it's always changing, because the meta is fairly consistent across every server right now. They biggest changes we've seen lately is the tower oriented gameplay rather than farm and kills. The lanes and roles continue to stay the same with the occasional position change, and the comps continue to play towards turtle capable, poke, or split push. But this is because this is what the pro scene has found to work best at high levels of play and will continue to stay the same until someone finds something game changing as people like to call it.

Maybe I look at the word meta differently, but I see it as the playstyle not the team composition. It can obviously be argued many ways. I just prefer to keep terms limited in their meaning when talking strategy otherwise you'll never really know what someone is refering to. That's why we use team comps, lane comps, and meta IMO; we are able to more succinctly refer to different aspects of the strategy of the game.

This is why you'll hear that the NA scene continues to lag behind the rest of the world, because they aren't experimenting with different playstyles but instead just adopt those of others.
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Amumu is one of the scariest ganker atm, It's a shame that he is so dependent on blue buff.

Yeah, which is why he works so well with mid laners who don't need blue like Kat. His ult works amazing with hers too.
    
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Yeah, I guess you're right. Maybe champions like Shen just get banned because they're annoying. Not because they're OP, but annoying. A decent Shen can save so many lives in the last second that it just gets annoying as hell for the other team, and they go: "ZOMG SHEN OP", whereas he just left his lane to save a teammate, which actually sets him back in xp and gold, maybe even giving up the tower, or getting it damaged.

Exactly. Morello had an amazing post about why champs get banned and how it works into the game. I don't remember exactly, but it came down to one of four things:
1. Counterpicking for your team comp (if you are poke, banning healers, if you are push, banning anivia)
2. Counterpicking for one player. The most notorious was Nidalee when HSGG was at top. (only applies when you know enemy team)
3. The champ is just a pain in the ass to play against. Shaco, Shen, Karthus, Ali, Blitz
4. The champ is just blatantly too strong. Jayce, Rengar

Shen definitely fits into the number 3 category. He really doesn't bring too much to the table other than a taunt and his ult.
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when is the meta going to change ? or is it not?

My guess is soon. And I'm not just saying it. There has been some leaks about mastery changes and things like that and they will mess with the top lane and jungle. I have a feeling it'll come this season. The meta is getting stale, and Riot is trying to change it, whether they admit it or not. I have already thought of a few comps that might work well based off the rumored changes tongue.gif
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Amumu is one of the scariest ganker atm, It's a shame that he is so dependent on blue buff.

Amumu is a sleeper op. You heard it from me first. If he gets that blue early you can count the game as won.
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Any idea what's the point of tribunal ELO? I'm currently 2300 still unranked. At least with the old tribunal we got some IP for the work...
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Exactly. Morello had an amazing post about why champs get banned and how it works into the game. I don't remember exactly, but it came down to one of four things:
1. Counterpicking for your team comp (if you are poke, banning healers, if you are push, banning anivia)
2. Counterpicking for one player. The most notorious was Nidalee when HSGG was at top. (only applies when you know enemy team)
3. The champ is just a pain in the ass to play against. Shaco, Shen, Karthus, Ali, Blitz
4. The champ is just blatantly too strong. Jayce, Rengar
Shen definitely fits into the number 3 category. He really doesn't bring too much to the table other than a taunt and his ult.
My guess is soon. And I'm not just saying it. There has been some leaks about mastery changes and things like that and they will mess with the top lane and jungle. I have a feeling it'll come this season. The meta is getting stale, and Riot is trying to change it, whether they admit it or not. I have already thought of a few comps that might work well based off the rumored changes tongue.gif
Amumu is a sleeper op. You heard it from me first. If he gets that blue early you can count the game as won.
What i noticed as i climbed the elo ladders is that when i was extremely low aka 500 elo (i got the account from my younger brother) there was a lot of diversity like double lane melee top lol and ppl would get so furious so i ended jungling pretty much every game at low elo (games were more fun at that rating). as i progressed around 1600 to 1800(but it really started at 1000 elo) i noticed that every game they would state ok who is ad bot and support and who is ap mid .i would get so tired of every1 thinking that just because ur ap you would have to go mid or tank top..just got old so i would deliberately pick a role that would have a "set meta posistion" and play them somewhere else.for any1 who is stuck in that extremely low elo bracket and wants out just jungle ...easiest way out
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Any idea what's the point of tribunal ELO? I'm currently 2300 still unranked. At least with the old tribunal we got some IP for the work...


3400 and unranked ._.

I have no idea what it is for
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Any idea what's the point of tribunal ELO? I'm currently 2300 still unranked. At least with the old tribunal we got some IP for the work...

I wouldn't be surprised if it showed in the summoners profile and giving something special like a skin, summoner icon, some RP or whatever. Would be nice to at least get some credit like that, now that they removed the IP bonus.
 
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